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parislad

08-24-2010, 09:31 PM Post subject: Set; Monotone flop - Turn action?

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Rush, not much info on players. Just could use some help thinking clearly about this situation, as at the table was confused during the hand and still am a bit. If I check, what's my plan for the river?
MP1 17/17 over 6 hands, played 1 hand which was a BTN steal. Not seen any flops.
MP3 13/11 over 85 but no stats vs PFR on the flop and no reads. AF 1.5.
Thanks in advance.

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($14.24)
UTG+1 ($9.59)
MP1 ($7.15)
MP2 Hero ($19.51)
MP3 ($10.21)
CO ($20.22)
BTN ($12.55)
SB ($6.55)
BB ($4)
Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP2

2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30, 4 folds
Flop:

($1.05, 3 players)
MP1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.20, MP3 calls $2.20, MP1calls $1.70
Turn:

($7.65, 3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero?

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pdk1010

08-25-2010, 04:02 AM

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*disclaimer*-i sucks at pokerz

im potting the turn(puts them both ai) every single time in this situation i stoved it(u should do this too) and i have 62% equity in the hand***+i think we have a good amount of fold equity here + villains probably suck and will make huge mistakes calling this turn(Acx hands)= ++++++++ev IMO

also i assume u lost here so i wanted to add that in t.o.p sklansky mentions something that has really helped me to "deal" with getting beat, whether bad or otherwise, and that is if you make a +ev play regardless of if you win or lose you still make money....example:

u pay me 2 dollars for heads ill give you 1 for tails

regardless of if i win or lose i make .50 on every bet
(50%x2)-(50%x1)=.50

same in poker...anyway u prolly know this already but someone that reads this might not and its stopped me from putting me hand through my monitor a couple times sooooo never hurts to mention it

***stove results

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

770,070 games 0.203 secs 3,793,448 games/sec

Board: 8c Qc 7c 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 66.718% 66.72% 00.00% 513774 0.00 { 8h8s }
Hand 1: 13.957% 13.89% 00.07% 106949 528.00 { 99+, 8c8d, 77, 55, AcKc, AQs, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, Q9s+, Qd7d, Qh7h, Qs7s, J8s+, T9s, 8d7d, 8h7h, 8s7s, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQh, AdQs, AhQd, AhQs, AsQd, AsQh, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, Ac9d, Ac9h, Ac9s, Ac8d, Ac8h, Ac8s, Ac7d, Ac7h, Ac7s, Ac6d, Ac6h, Ac6s, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s, Ac4d, Ac4h, Ac4s, Ac3d, Ac3h, Ac3s, Ac2d, Ac2h, Ac2s, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KdQh, KdQs, KhQd, KhQs, KsQd, KsQh, KJo-KTo, QTo+, Qd8h, Qd8s, Qh8d, Qh8s, Qs8d, Qs8h, Qd7h, Qd7s, Qh7d, Qh7s, Qs7d, Qs7h, J9o+, T9o, 8d7h, 8d7s, 8h7d, 8h7s, 8s7d, 8s7h }
Hand 2: 19.325% 19.26% 00.07% 148291 528.00 { 99+, 8c8d, 77, 55, AcKc, AQs, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, Q9s+, Qd7d, Qh7h, Qs7s, J8s+, T9s, 8d7d, 8h7h, 8s7s, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AdQh, AdQs, AhQd, AhQs, AsQd, AsQh, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, Ac9d, Ac9h, Ac9s, Ac8d, Ac8h, Ac8s, Ac7d, Ac7h, Ac7s, Ac6d, Ac6h }

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pdk1010

08-25-2010, 04:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk1010

the second range is f'ed up(stoves fault not mine) and i dont feel like doing that again so i assume we have even more equity then what i originally posted....feel free to correct me if im wrong

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NightGizmo

08-25-2010, 05:26 AM

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Join Date: May 2010

Posts: 268

If you were just playing MP1, it would be an easy shove. His range is pretty narrow after calling the flop raise. He probably calls your turn shove with AcAx, AcKx, QQ, AcJc, maybe KcKx or AcTc. You beat 6-9 hands, he has 5-6 hands that beats you.

MP3 is a little scary, though -- he called the flop raise with the PFR/cbettor still left to act. It makes me think he's not worried about a re-raise and is hoping that MP1 calls or shoves to get more money in the pot. Or maybe he's just not thinking about other players, and likes a club draw in his hand.

I guess I would shove, but I can't guarantee that's the right thing to do in this situation.

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