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flyingPenguin
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05-12-2006, 08:44 PM
Post subject: Semi bluffing
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 193
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I went back to $10NL for a relaxing change today. Very enjoyable. I had an opponent who I had taken a few buy-ins from on different tables. I think he wanted to get back at me. Anyway, one hand went something like this:
Villain dealt 2C 10C. I'm dealt something else. I bet 0.45, and there are 4 callers, including our villain.
Pot is about $2.30
Flop comes down 9S 8C 10S. Everyone checks. (Including me who is disconnected. I'm back in by my next turn though.)
Turn is 4C. First actor bets 0.20, everyone calls, I raise to $2.00, first actor calls $1.80, Villain goes all-in for $8.35. ...
I know he shouldn't have been in the hand in the first place and shouldn't have put much value on his hand, but I can see why he did the all-in bluff if he suspected I may not have had a hand. He has top pair, and even if I have a made hand, he has his 1/3 chance of making his flush, and a lot of folding equity.
Do you think this kind of semi bluff is a good idea?
You have half a hand and a flush draw up against a raise. Go all-in hoping to make them fold. If they don't you still have a chance of winning.
What sort of situations would you do this in?
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bdawg56kg
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Fold preflop. Raising T2s is pretty much always spew at 10nl. Raising the turn is fine, but you have to fold to the push. If you think he's really out to get you, then sure I would call.
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by bdawg56kg
Fold preflop. Raising T2s is pretty much always spew at 10nl. Raising the turn is fine, but you have to fold to the push. If you think he's really out to get you, then sure I would call.
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Villain dealt 2C 10C. I'm dealt something else.
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
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he has his 1/3 chance of making his flush, and a lot of folding equity.
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no he doesnt, you are on the turn. closer to 1/6.
lots of folding equity? you'd know better then us.
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crushednuts
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Join Date: May 2006
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Dump the hand before the flop, dump the hand on the flop, dump the hand on the turn and dump the hand on the river. Here he is praying for a miracle 2 pair or flush which may not even be good. With a bet and a raise in front i'd say his folding equity is piss poor especially when you are getting around 2 to 1 to call his all in (assuming his is going all in for $8.35 [a raise of 6.35] and not raising $8.35)
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flyingPenguin
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney
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OK. I know he had a bad hand, shouldn't have been there, all that. I also know that I had the nuts and wasn't going to fold.
But it's the idea I'm talking about. Would you ever try this kind of thing? If it was on the flop and you had 14 outs, it's mathematically a good idea. But otherwise would trying this be entirely read dependent? What if he was drawing to the nuts and put me on an overpair?
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