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Wndllll
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08-27-2008, 06:29 PM
Post subject: SB range versus BB? Thoughts and advice please!
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Join Date: May 2008
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Something I've run into a few times more than usual today is being folded to in the SB and then wondering what my steal range should be vs BB. Obviously every villains BB stats would make this different but I just wondered if you folks out there had a rough outline versus your "average player".
For example: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ighlight=blind stealing 101
This post turned my CO and button play around - spoon clearly suggests stealing should be at 30%+ while being able to easily maintain a pretty tight image. I imagine that once you're folded round to in SB, you can loosen up even more right? So how far do I go - at the moment I raise (in addition to the hands I steal with from button) Axo , Kxs and Qxs but I still feel I could go even further.
Whatcha reckon?
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spoonitnow
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Since you're going to be out of position every time you see a flop, it's possible that it's best to actually be tighter in the small blind than the button. With that said, my SB open raising range against an unknown is something like most aces/kings, all pairs, any two cards 9 or higher, suited connectors, and probably some other stuff.
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Robb
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Since you're going to be out of position every time you see a flop, it's possible that it's best to actually be tighter in the small blind than the button. With that said, my SB open raising range against an unknown is something like most aces/kings, all pairs, any two cards 9 or higher, suited connectors, and probably some other stuff.
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I open-raise a similar range as Spoon. Depends some on stakes. I play 10nl, and a lot of people fold too easily, especially if you're willing to 2-barrel. Blind vs. blind isn't very expensive to learn, so experiment. Generally, villains like 40/5 require a 2-barrel to get them to fold. 3-barrelling at 10nl is NOT recommended, even against a known station. Wait for a hand to take them to value town on the turn, imo.
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will641
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i have a pretty wide opening range in the sb when folded to. i think your best bet is to figure out who you are playing obv. if its someone who is going to tenaciously defend and 3-bet, you want to be folding more hands, and visa versa.
vs an unknown, i would raise 54s+, 64s+, AXs/o, all pairs, any two broadways, 87o+, KXs. as you can see, pretty damn wide.
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Wndllll
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Join Date: May 2008
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Yeah glad that kind of ties in with what I'm doing (10NL here too), I must admit I forgot about the oop thing though, I won't widen my range anymore unless BB is one of those multitabling 6/6ers.
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