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littleogre
Old 08-23-2009, 11:47 PM     Post subject: this river is a fold ? #1 (permalink)  

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B6 ($1.51)
B5 ($2.23)
Hero ($1.03)
B3 ($1.61)
B2 ($1.14)
B1 ($0.93)
BN ($2.32)
SB ($0.95)
BB ($1.26)

BN is the button.

Precards:
SB posts the small blind $0.01, BB posts the big blind $0.02.

Preflop: Hero is dealt A K (9 active)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 2 folds, B1 calls $0.08, 3 folds.

Flop: Q 3 K ($0.19, 2 active)
Hero bets $0.19, B1 calls $0.19.

Turn: Q 3 K 4 ($0.57, 2 active)
Hero bets $0.38, B1 calls $0.38.

River: Q 3 K 4 J ($1.33, 2 active)
Hero checks, B1 bets $0.28 (all-in), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1.27, $0.06 raked
Hero, net: -$0.65, Folded River, has A K (a Pair of Kings)
B1, net: $0.62, Won uncontested River
BB, net: -$0.02, Folded Preflop
SB, net: -$0.01, Folded Preflop
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littleogre
Old 08-23-2009, 11:55 PM #2 (permalink)  

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littleogre has a little shameless behaviour in the past
 i figure he was on a draw and hit on the river or he has Q or K and decided to bet since i checked the river. I lean more towards the str8 or flush though. As he quick called my flop and turn bet and that's usually a draw.
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 just shove turn
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:18 AM #4 (permalink)  
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just shove turn
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Old 08-24-2009, 12:34 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Roller has a little shameless behaviour in the past
 Ship it on the Turn.

Make him pay if he wants to try and draw out on you.

Ship it
Shove it
Push it All in
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:44 AM #6 (permalink)  
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To answer your question. The river is a snapcall too. You're getting better than 5-1 and you've committed far too many chips to fold for those kinds of odds.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:21 AM     Post subject: Re: this river is a fold ? #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by littleogre
Hero folds.
you have got to be kidding...

shove turn, as played snapcall river.
If you're going to play 50bb deep, then you need to learn how to play 50bb deep.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
 
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Old 08-24-2009, 08:34 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I shove turn ez, and as played call river with the odds you're getting
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 08-24-2009, 10:22 AM #9 (permalink)  

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For me it was fold. But I am a beginner.
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Old 08-24-2009, 05:36 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Vinland is an unknown quantity at this point
 Difficult to see him ahead on turn so yeah shove it while the money is good. There are too many cards that can land on river that make a decision difficult....as it ended up happening....
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Old 08-25-2009, 05:11 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Roller has a little shameless behaviour in the past
 And if for some reason you didn't ship it on the Turn.



PLEASE Call the River ....................

Snap Snap Snap

Please .....................
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littleogre
Old 08-25-2009, 11:16 AM #12 (permalink)  

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littleogre has a little shameless behaviour in the past
 i agree that i should of just shoved the turn but i think calling the river is questionable The typical range here for a 2nl player as played is as follows
1He was calling down with Kx or Qx and decided to raise since i checked.
2he was slow playing a big hand like a set.
3 he hit is draw
4 he missed his draw and bluffed the river

This is a time when i wish my stoxev still worked. Next time i'll just ship the turn and save myself the trouble
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Old 08-25-2009, 11:40 AM #13 (permalink)  

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littleogre has a little shameless behaviour in the past
 ok if he has any pair+ our ev is 1.20 just not sure how much we should weight this to a completed flush or str8 .
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