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Old 01-14-2009, 03:15 AM     Post subject: Response to river raise - 10NL #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain's stats over 45 hands: 45/0/0.69, no reads

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UTG ($10.60)
MP ($10.30)
Button ($2.50)
SB ($16.95)
Hero (BB) ($10.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, 3
1 fold, MP calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.35) 6, A, 3 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.95) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.85, MP calls $0.85

River: ($2.65) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.40, MP raises to $4.80, Hero ???

I ended up shoving here but was wondering with the flush and strait draws on the board against a pretty passive opponent if I maybe messed up somewhere? I'm not really sure why I didn't raise this preflop as I usually raise all pp's.
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Old 01-14-2009, 03:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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holy damn, this is a fold but I can not make myself do it. Sick :P

edit I actually could fold but i would need just a little insight on the opponent. I meant, his aggro factor alone says that he cant do this as an awesome bluff.

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Old 01-16-2009, 06:20 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 This hand is kind of similar to the first one:

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CO ($13.30)
Button ($11.60)
Hero (SB) ($11.45)
BB ($10.50)
UTG ($22.05)
MP ($9.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 10
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.80) Q, 6, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.80) 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($2.80) A (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $2.20, Hero ???

Since he didn't raise the flop and bet small on the turn I felt it was unlikely he had a flush and ended up calling the raise.

Thoughts on this hand and the one above? I'll post the results a little later.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:40 PM #4 (permalink)  
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we're probably beat here, with that type of villain. but i still dont think i could fold =x. also he might have some sort of two pair hand with an ace

but shoving here is definitely wrong
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:13 PM #5 (permalink)  
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H1 - Call the river IMO, but you're probably beat. 45 hands is a low sample, but I still wouldn't over-shove.

H2 - Villain's turn bet tells me either he doesn't have the FD, or he does and it's a terrible bet. RR would get you more information. As played, call the river.
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:06 AM #6 (permalink)  
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First hand is a fold for me.

Second hand I'd call.

As mentioned before, shoving on either hand would be a poor move.
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Old 01-17-2009, 01:16 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 I can't fold hand 1, but I would probably play it safe and not shove.
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Quote:
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First hand is a fold for me.

Second hand I'd call.

As mentioned before, shoving on either hand would be a poor move.
could you seriously fold hand one?

i still don't think i could even if i had like 60 seconds to think the hand over
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Old 01-17-2009, 05:02 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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First hand is a fold for me.

Second hand I'd call.

As mentioned before, shoving on either hand would be a poor move.
could you seriously fold hand one?

i still don't think i could even if i had like 60 seconds to think the hand over
If I thought that one out, I'd probably convince myself he has a flush.

NB: I'm a nit.
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