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10-29-2009, 11:39 AM
Post subject: Rentons adcd Theorem the right place to start?
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Full House
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IS the best framework for a strategy at low stakes Renton's ABCD theorem?
I see a ot of benefits from it as it keeps you thinking about ranges, but for a noob trying to learn is this the right place to start?
Assume I have read and understand, odds, pot odds, implied odds, BR management etc. It's strategy I am looking to improve on.
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hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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Yea, sticking to basic TAG or "ABCD" strategy is going to be best to start. Then, once you have that down, you can start to open your game up more.
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Every decision of every street of every hand decide what your opponent's range is and how they play it. Then make the best decision based off of that information.
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XTR1000
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Originally Posted by dranger7070
Yea, sticking to basic TAG or "ABCD" strategy is going to be best to start. Then, once you have that down, you can start to open your game up more.
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I think he´s referring to Rentons ABCD-theorem rather than the soulless term of "ABC-poker"
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Originally Posted by dranger7070
Yea, sticking to basic TAG or "ABCD" strategy is going to be best to start. Then, once you have that down, you can start to open your game up more.
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I think he´s referring to Rentons ABCD-theorem rather than the soulless term of "ABC-poker" |
Yup, could have been a bit clearer there.
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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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jyms
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Aiming to be a TAGG has generally been the concensus in the past but two of the best online video coaches, Samoleus and Giggy beleive that you will be better off learning to open up and play a ton more. You will learn more about tougher situations and play far more hands at teh easiest stakes to play. It's also much easier to try and tighten up as a shift in gears than to loosen up out of your comfort zone. That said, there is only a certain amount of looseness you can incorporate in your game at the micro stakes since aggression and bluffs are not rewarded the same, and just making good hands is more important vs players that call too much and go too far in the hands.
Rentons ABCD theory is a great place to start in learning how to play successfully.
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Full House
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Little ambiguous there. So let me make some assumptions and try and form a framework here.
At $5 & £10 nl, I am mainly playing against loose donks who call too much, or tight aggressive regs who are too tight for optimal play.
So, I should attempt to put people in either catagory, and then tighten up & value bet the loose donks, and open up and bluff the tight regs? All the while studying Rentons ABCD theorem for when I move up?
As for a tagg strategy for these lower stakes, learn from Rentonls 169 hand strategy article?
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Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
hey guys, if you ever make a snap call on the river when your opponent raises you're fucking retarded.
Fucking. Retarded.
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ABCD is great for learning, but even a little bluffing will cause you problems at micros. For the most part, I would forget treating your D range like your A range for balancing UNLESS you take the time to make proper reads on players and know who will/won't fold.
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Robb
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I think Renton's 3 part "169 hand strategy guide" is perfect for noobies, with his ABCD theorem good once they move to beginner/intermediate stages.
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yeah i initially found ABCD theorem mostly confusing when i was first reading stuff. and bluffing at the micro end of micro's is usually shitty as silly string said.
i bluff very occasionally only when im pretty confident about it and rentons theorem involves bluffs thats for sure! (which is good)
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