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fisherman
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12-03-2007, 08:23 PM
Post subject: RAKE - % of pot and % of winnings
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 49
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I was just thinking how much of a killer rake can be at lower levels. I've played 22.5k hands at $25NL, winning $855 but paying $450 in rake on top of that, so may ratio of profit:rake is 1.9:1. For all pots played at that level, the average rake taken was 4.39%. I've also played 17.5k hands at $50NL winning $1180 but paying $540 in rake so the same ratio is 2.19:1. For all pots played at that level, the average rake taken was 4.33%
I'm thinking of moving up levels to $100NL and am hoping rake will become slightly less of an issue because I figured more pots would be breaking the $60 mark at which the rake is capped at the site I play. Does anyone have any figures for rake %s or profit:rake ratios at different levels (I realise the 2nd is heavily dependent on how well you're doing generally). Thanks
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Verde
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: In a floating casino somewhere in the sea
Posts: 28
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FIsherman where are u playing?
Look if there somehow trade points into cash, or into 'prizes' that u can sell afterwards, o even use them to join events.
Some site give in this way your Rakeback, not a so good way, but works too.
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fisherman
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 49
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I play on Everest. They don't offer rakeback but I have got a $75 bonus each month since I signed up there about 6 months ago after clearing so many points in a month. It's not bad but I would like something more consistent, and I'me reluctant to look elsewhere because Everest is a great site, much better than all the American ones anyhow
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
Posts: 5,406
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The rake is pretty killer at 100nl and below for most online poker sites. At 200nl I think is where it typically starts slowing down a bit.
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cjs55
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 171
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Rake is the number one reason I want to move up to 200NL ASAP.
The difference between 50NL and 100NL was nice to see, but the difference between 100NL and 200NL should be even greater I believe.
Some recent numbers for me.
14989 hands 50NL +$356 2.38 BB/Hour $569 rake
6609 hands 100NL +$563 4.18 BB/Hour $370 rake.
If you normalize my BB/hour to 2.38, 100NL gives me 321 profit:370 rake, while 50NL is 356:569.
This works out to me paying $1.18 in rake per $1 won at 100NL, versus $1.59 per $1 won at 50NL.
Thankfully I'm getting some rakeback, but it's still pretty brutal at these stakes.
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