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JokerRoom
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08-09-2007, 01:40 PM
Post subject: Quiting Poker - Thoughts??
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Now, I am realitvely new to online poker. I've been playing a year or so now at sites like PokerRoom and FullTilt. I'm just wondering if I am the only one to experience this....
Typically I build my bankroll quickly (ie: 100-1500), and have little problem doing so. However, it seems that it always drops within the week. I don't find myself playing hands differently, and generally I'm still playing low stakes. It's the bad beats that seem to be killing me. I go ahead dominating preflop only to find the person catching runner runner. I'll give you two examples that stand out before me from yesturday.
It's a five player table 25/50. I am on the button. First to act raises to 1.75. Player two folds. Player three re-raises to $5.00. I have QQ. I know they have crap - its the way they play and why I'm at that table. (40+% frequencey). I reraise all-in for $25 to end it there. Blinds fold. Raiser of 1.75 calls immediately - like stupid fast - and the re-raiser (of $5) folds. The dude plays an 8,6 so I'm sitting pretty as I figured. Flop comes 2,k,3. Turn 4. River 5. And poof I'm broke again.
Another hand Im sitting heads up 25/50. Player X on the button raises to 1.75 with K7sc. I reraise to 3$ with AA. He calls. Flop comes 7c,3h,2d - rainbow. I check. He bets $3.00. I reraise all-in $15. He calls. Turn 6c. River Jc. Poof flush, and I'm broke again.
These are not isolated examples but things that happen almost too regularly against me when I am a big favorite.
Now honestly, am I a bad player or geting unlucky. I can't afford to play anymore at this rate. I love the game but it's not worth it. Someone help plz!
JR
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JeffreyGB
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Dec 2004
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In the two examples you've given, you just got unlucky.
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JokerRoom
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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The problem is, this seems to be a regular thing when all my $ is on the line...That's why Im wondering if Im doing something stupid and wrong. Can people be blessed with badluck?haha
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Pelion
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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focus on the hands where you get the money in when behind and figure out if you could/should have done it differently.
Focussing on and blaming bad luck wont improve your game and it wont take away your bad luck either.
Make sure you are playing within your bankroll. It sounds like you arent if you are building up and rocketing down really quickly.
Alternatively realise that poker is a game and if you arent enjoying it then just stop playing.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
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That's why we have bankroll guidelines so that runs of bad luck won't wipe out your bankroll.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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topsoyale
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I'm sure many people think about quitting like this, but you probably are getting genuinely unlucky mixed in with a few leaks.
The leaks can be fixed by posting histories and studying the game. The luck will eventually even out.
As others have said, going from 100-1500 quickly is either a really big heater or playing underolled, the latter of which normally spells disaster.
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SHAKE
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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this is a bad beat post. Illemail the form, you can fill out an send it to the poker gods. just deal w/ it. Play with 20 BI's or 300BB dont move up so quick...
its called regression to the mean. Winning 100-1.5K is straight luck i dont care how ood you think you are, o the bad luck balances it out. Mabye your a brea even player. If you could convince omeone o flip a coin for 2-1 every ime you et heads, your not gona complain every me it comes up tails are you? No your gona brag about hw you got some idiot to take th bet in the first place...
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jyms
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Never have all your money on the line. You know that no hand is 100% to win pre flop right? Learn a BR management that fits your game and lifestyle and stop worrying about one hand, two hands or a session. Losing happens, downswings happen. It's math, learn it and beat the game. Stop worrying about one fricken hand.
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Chicago_Kid
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Full House
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Originally Posted by JokerRoom
The problem is, this seems to be a regular thing when all my $ is on the line...That's why Im wondering if Im doing something stupid and wrong. Can people be blessed with badluck?haha
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I used to have this problem when I started. First, learn how to size your bets on various streets and situations. Other tips:
1) slowplay less
2) bet your flops harder; while betting turns more carefully
3) learn how to minimize your losses in drawouts (lower two pr, top pr)
4) top pr can kill inexperienced players; learn when to value bet and when to laydown sometimes (very opp dependent).
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