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Rockymv
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05-28-2006, 03:41 PM
Post subject: Quick conceptual question
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In general, are you more likely to reraise in late position or in the blinds? I can't figure if I should be reraising because I have position or because I don't have position, and need to take control of the hand.
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jackvance
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If your postflop game is weak/tight, make bigger preflop pots when you have postflop position.
If your postflop game is aggressive, make bigger preflop pots when you don't - the general idea here is that you want to get most of the money in when you have the advantage (preflop) instead of when you are disadvantaged (postflop).
Imo it's a controversive topic since both sides can be defended..
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gabe
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i reraise more hands on the button than in the blinds. pretty much everything i reraise in the blinds ill reraise on the button, plus a mix of some suited connectors and trash.
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Pelion
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05-28-2006, 04:04 PM
Post subject: Re: Quick conceptual question
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Originally Posted by Rockymv
In general, are you more likely to reraise in late position or in the blinds? I can't figure if I should be reraising because I have position or because I don't have position, and need to take control of the hand.
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Being in later position is all about having more information to be able to start playing hands weirdly (in a more +EV way) so whether or not im theortically more likely to raise depends on what sort of hand i have.
Id imagine people are more likely to reraise AA in EP, but just flat call in late.
Whereas a LAGgy player would far rather be reraising 78s in LP than in early.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Lukie
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you want to raise more when you're in late position then when you're in the blinds.
It shouldn't be close either.
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sandstorm
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Originally Posted by jackvance
If your postflop game is aggressive, make bigger preflop pots when you don't - the general idea here is that you want to get most of the money in when you have the advantage (preflop) instead of when you are disadvantaged (postflop).
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i't not sure if building large pots when you are out of position is such a good idea.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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saywhat2
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When you are in the blinds you have to act first. So you have to add that in to the equation. There are times I hate acting first. Some times I like it. For example if I am in the BB with AQ. Well I am only going to hit this flop 30% of the time. So I actually prefer this hand from the BB. This way I come out betting if I hit the flop or not. I can put the pressure on my opponents. If I miss the flop from the Button and two people bet in front of me, well I probably have to give the pot up. Another time I like being in the BB is when I have a hand like 10-10 or 99. I don’t like raising upfront to much with these hands maybe 2 to 3 x the bb. But In the blinds I will bump it up to 5 to 6x the BB. My fear of raising big with this hand in early or mid position is that some body may just call with a hand like JJ or QQ.
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gabe
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i't not sure if building large pots when you are out of position is such a good idea.
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its a great idea when you are getting the best of it
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sandstorm
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Originally Posted by sandstorm
i't not sure if building large pots when you are out of position is such a good idea.
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its a great idea when you are getting the best of it |
yes of course, but generally speaking, is it a good idea to build larger pots (should have saidf LARGER pots i guess) out of position than in position? i'm no't really sure where i'm heading with this, but anyway.
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>3
this is my favourite part of the post
it looks like angry boobs
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jackvance
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Oh it seems I replied to a different question. I thought this was about the height of the raise instead of the amount of hands. And yeah, raise more hands when you have position.
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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Rockymv
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In the OP I meant reraising, as in are you more likely reraise a hand like QQ or JJ in LP or in the blinds.
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I'm probably only reraising AK and QQ-AA in the blinds.
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Originally Posted by saywhat2
When you are in the blinds you have to act first. So you have to add that in to the equation. There are times I hate acting first. Some times I like it. For example if I am in the BB with AQ. Well I am only going to hit this flop 30% of the time. So I actually prefer this hand from the BB. This way I come out betting if I hit the flop or not. I can put the pressure on my opponents. If I miss the flop from the Button and two people bet in front of me, well I probably have to give the pot up....
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another way to look at this is you have much more information available to you in the 2nd instance. In the first, you are taking a stab in the dark with ace high and have on idea where you stand, and in the 2nd, you see that 2 people bet into you and you can know your ace high is no good.
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Having position is great, but on the other hand, if you're on the button and the raise comes from a couple of spots off the button, they're much more likely to have a hand than if you're in the blinds and the raise comes from the button.
I think you really have to open up your range of re-raising hands in the blinds if you have a loose raiser to your right. If a guy is raising on the button with 20% of his hands, just calling him with JJ or TT is terrible. I love sitting to the right of a nit in a 6-max game who won't re-pop me without a monster hand.
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Lukie
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mcatdog I agree with what you are saying, but what is the point you are trying to make?
No matter how you look at it, your raising range is (should be) tighter from the blinds then in late position. I don't think any good player will tell you that you should just call with TT/JJ in the blinds against a loose opener from the button.
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I was responding to the post by samsonite2100
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I don't think any good player will tell you that you should just call with TT/JJ in the blinds against a loose opener from the button.
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Emphasis mine.
But seriously, against a loose opener, yes, of course, I would raise with TT/JJ. Against an unknown, I'm usually just calling. Is this a leak? I tend to treat TT/JJ more like middle pairs when I'm OOP against an unknown quantity.
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KingLizard
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I don't think any good player will tell you that you should just call with TT/JJ in the blinds against a loose opener from the button.
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Emphasis mine.
But seriously, against a loose opener, yes, of course, I would raise with TT/JJ. Against an unknown, I'm usually just calling. Is this a leak? I tend to treat TT/JJ more like middle pairs when I'm OOP against an unknown quantity. |
If your strategy here is a leak, then it's a leak I have as well.
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