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bigred
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09-11-2006, 12:14 AM
Post subject: Question about this Shania chick
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Do you think she would like me more if I reraised JJ and TT with position in 6max games?
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Miffed22001
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yes.
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Renton
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i like calling in position and reraising from the blinds
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The Izebox
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yes, please reraise my friend
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Me? I always tell the truth.
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bigred
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Originally Posted by Renton
i like calling in position and reraising from the blinds
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explanation plz?
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Renton
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Call when facing a raise while in position, it underreps your hand and you can fully use your position. If you reraise from position, you are effectively out of position during the hand because they'll always check to you and that doesn't tell you anything about their hand or their intentions.
Reraise from the blinds to get more money in while you most probably have the best hand, and increase your fold equity after the flop so you don't have to play three streets out of position.
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by Renton
Call when facing a raise while in position, it underreps your hand and you can fully use your position. If you reraise from position, you are effectively out of position during the hand because they'll always check to you and that doesn't tell you anything about their hand or their intentions.
Reraise from the blinds to get more money in while you most probably have the best hand, and increase your fold equity after the flop so you don't have to play three streets out of position.
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Isnt this counteracted by reraising = playing a big pot oop with a mediocre hand? These are 2 conflicting concepts and I have a hard time getting the balence right.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Renton
Call when facing a raise while in position, it underreps your hand and you can fully use your position. If you reraise from position, you are effectively out of position during the hand because they'll always check to you and that doesn't tell you anything about their hand or their intentions.
Reraise from the blinds to get more money in while you most probably have the best hand, and increase your fold equity after the flop so you don't have to play three streets out of position.
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erm so watch them for a bit and put them on a range preflop instead of just looking at your HUD stats.....?!?!
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Fnord
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She thinks it's really hot when you re-raise the right players with 65 s00ted.
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Renton
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Originally Posted by Pelion
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Originally Posted by Renton
Call when facing a raise while in position, it underreps your hand and you can fully use your position. If you reraise from position, you are effectively out of position during the hand because they'll always check to you and that doesn't tell you anything about their hand or their intentions.
Reraise from the blinds to get more money in while you most probably have the best hand, and increase your fold equity after the flop so you don't have to play three streets out of position.
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Isnt this counteracted by reraising = playing a big pot oop with a mediocre hand? These are 2 conflicting concepts and I have a hard time getting the balence right. |
you don't have a mediocre hand. you have a big pair
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Rondavu
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Originally Posted by Fnord
She thinks it's really hot when you re-raise the right players with 65 s00ted.
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Oh she really gets worked up. In terms of the overall meta game. I think the most widespread leak is only reraising big pairs and AK.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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bigred
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Originally Posted by Fnord
She thinks it's really hot when you re-raise the right players with 65 s00ted.
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I seem to warm her up really well, but seem to not be able to hit the "right" spot because I'm ignorant of what the right players are.
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DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by Fnord
She thinks it's really hot when you re-raise the right players with 65 s00ted.
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Oh she really gets worked up. In terms of the overall meta game. I think the most widespread leak is only reraising big pairs and AK. |
At mid-low stakes this really isn't a big leak.
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swiggidy
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Originally Posted by DaNutsInYoEye
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Originally Posted by Rondavu
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Originally Posted by Fnord
She thinks it's really hot when you re-raise the right players with 65 s00ted.
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Oh she really gets worked up. In terms of the overall meta game. I think the most widespread leak is only reraising big pairs and AK. |
At mid-low stakes this really isn't a big leak. |
I generally make more money with JJ, TT this way at 25NL because they like to call to see the flop and are folding when they miss the flop anyway.
I guess that is not shania, but still +eV.
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Raise with TT and JJ UTG def....if you get reraised you can just call and re-evaluate the flop.
In position and out of position you can vary to change gears; sometimes just call; sometimes reraise if maniac, etc...
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bigred
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Originally Posted by WhooFleuryScores
Raise with TT and JJ UTG def....if you get reraised you can just call and re-evaluate the flop.
In position and out of position you can vary to change gears; sometimes just call; sometimes reraise if maniac, etc...
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This is how I play TT and JJ from UTG, but how do you re-evaluate on flop after calling a reraise pf. If I call reraise because of deep stacks, I'm looking for set. Hard to re-evaluate OOP when you're going to probably face at least a cont bet if not a strong hand betting. It's tough to discern the two of them without putting a lot more in the pot to see a turn.
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bigred
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I'm on the button shorthanded with QKo. I'm 17/8 with a medium, 3ish, agression level. No previous reraises on this table pf. Op is 21/7 and raises 4X UTG. Would shania get hot flashes if I reraised op? I'm not sure. I'm not good with hypothetical women.
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Originally Posted by bigred
I'm not good with women.
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TerryToma
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i dont get it.
here let me try
does shania have a big pair?? if so work on getting it all in, but do it slowly.
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swiggidy
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Originally Posted by TerryToma
i dont get it.
here let me try
does shania have a big pair?? if so work on getting it all in, but do it slowly.
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You start slow, but after you get a feel for it you need to pound it hard.
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any other reads??
if she has stats similar to spoon's chick, fold preflop
unless you havent gotten action for quite some time, then a limp-reraise is probably your best bet.
if she is your rare 36/24 like irisheye's avatar then probably just try calling her and see what happens.. then be sneaky raising it up.. before she knows it you will be all in with you a big favorite.
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swiggidy
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any other reads??
if she has stats similar to spoon's chick, fold preflop
unless you havent gotten action for quite some time, then a limp-reraise is probably your best bet.
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In that case play her fast but be ready to let her go. You don't want to get attached.
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Renton
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alright CUT IT OUT WITH THE GOD DAMN METAPHORS.
thx
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benny999
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
I generally make more money with JJ, TT this way at 25NL because they like to call to see the flop and are folding when they miss the flop anyway.
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At 100NL 6-max they stop folding so darn much.
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