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Donkafelts
Old 01-02-2010, 02:04 AM     Post subject: Quads and Kings(2 10nl hands) #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1

Villain is 19/16/11.8(vpip/pfr/3b%) over 68, I bet flop for protection and value, on turn we have nuts so more value. River puts me in a tough spot because I cant really see a tag calling two streets with a 7 here, nor can I see him calling this river with a queen that often. I checked to try and induce a random bluff from any missed draws or queens/pps that want to turn their hands into a bluff, but I’m not sure how often that’s going to happen. So basically I don’t know which gets me more value.


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($21.35)
SB ($10.05)
BB ($11.45)
UTG ($33.90)
Hero (MP) ($12.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, 9
1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) Q, 7, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, Button calls $0.90

Turn: ($2.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, Button calls $1.90

River: ($6.55) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Total pot: $6.55

Hand 2
Ok this hand is the side effect of playing after getting back from a new years party. Villain is 42/9 fish over around 50. So a shove is probably worst here, in retrospect I should just be flatting the flop as we could be ahead against his bluffs and draws, but his range has a lot of sets in it. So he can really have sets, flush draws, straight draws, combo draws, hence I like a call on flop, but what’s plan for rest of hand?
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Button ($13.55)
Hero (SB) ($25.30)
BB ($6.15)
UTG ($10.35)
MP ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
2 folds, Button bets $0.30, Hero raises $0.95, 1 fold, Button calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) 9, J, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.70, Button raises $3.40, Hero raises $22.60 (All-In), Button calls $9.15 (All-In)

Turn: ($27.20) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($27.20) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $27.20
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:16 AM #2 (permalink)  
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hand 1 i dont see why you dont bet out river, i dont like your reasoning... dont underestimate how bad 10nlers are, def more value in raising since he has a Q a lot and calls 5$ with it i think, even if he bluffs his missed FDs alot i think youre losing value by checking since he checks behind decent Qs sometimes but rarely folds em for 5ish. also you could bet a bit more on the turn.

hand 2 is fine imo, getting all in vs this whale with overpair on that board should be pretty dam good on average. but it is relevant if he is the type of fish that likes to see a lot of flops then stack off with top pair or if he likes to see a lot of flops and is nitty unless he hits big. realistically i always push here... nh
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:19 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: If you're ever betting the river for value then you should bet it for value here.

Hand 2: Calling the flop is terrible. You played it fine.
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