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hangchiong
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12-27-2008, 05:37 PM
Post subject: QQ,villains 4bet and shove flop-25NL
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 359
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im on holiday atm,so no stats.reads were poor,but im looking at some sort of a tagg.
the only range after 4betting me would be kk,aa or possibly qq or ak,but his shove on the flop convince me i was beat.he wouldnt 4bet me with jj.and he wont go AI om the flop with ak.
insta shove me after i check on the flop.
block the flop?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($18.55)
Hero (SB) ($35.05)
BB ($46.75)
UTG ($23.80)
MP ($25)
CO ($27.30)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , Q
UTG raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, UTG raises to $9.50, Hero calls $6.50
Flop: ($19.25) 9 , 2, 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $14.30 (All-In), Hero folds
Total pot: $19.25 | Rake: $0.95
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
Posts: 7,545
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fold/shove PF, if you call PF, you should not fold this flop
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kmind
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Not Giving In
Posts: 4,240
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
fold/shove PF, if you call PF, you should not fold this flop
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This
But I do know I never really got in good with queens preflop when I played 25NL vs. a TAGG so I would fold pre.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pwnsylvania
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my image would be so shitty I could get in 9s here
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Ragnar4
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Full House
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Billings, Montana
Posts: 1,284
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
my image would be so shitty I could get in 9s here
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IF We have been told that Image doesn't matter at microstakes no limit because those who may consider our image are mindless donkeys
AND 25nl is considered a microstake
THEN Spenda's last statement does not apply in this situation.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
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Please to not be calling anymore 4Bets OOP, the c/fing the flop. Either shove or fold preflop. If I 3bet here, I am shoving over a 4b.
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if we're calling the 4b it's to shove any non ace non king flop because we think that our opponent's range is AK, JJ+
but we probably shouldn't be 3betting a UTG open since his range is very strong unless UTG raises a lot from the EP
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AFchung
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UCLA
Posts: 1,179
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this is the flop you were hoping for when you flatted pre. get it in
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