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Big Dazz
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12-28-2007, 05:42 PM
Post subject: QQ from SB
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Portsmouth, England
Posts: 45
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Hi all,
$10 buy in at Europoker on the SB with QQ. Real loose table with 55% seeing the flop and an average pot of $4.50. Therefore lots of limpers and players calling PF raises.
By the time it comes round to me there has been 1 miniraise and 6 callers (that's $1.80 in the pot including the BB).
My thinking is that a raise is not going to shift enough players for my queens to hold up, so I call the miniraise and join the fray.
I was wondering a bout the general concensus on this - should I have raised????
The flop comes down 578 rainbow. What now?????????????
cheers
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Vrax
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Poland
Posts: 632
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Go bonkers preflop and on flop because you're about to double up.
Make it $3, call if minraiser pushes back because his range will be much wider than KK+ in this spot.
If you get callers to your big threebet, you will have around a potsized bet behind, so you can open push almost on any board.
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donkbee
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WELP
Join Date: May 2005
Location: so close but so far
Posts: 3,604
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RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE RAISE preflop!!!!
You do NOT want to go broke on a low coordinated flop like that with 8 people in the pot. That's why you MUST raise PF.
A raise to $2.50 or $3 should get rid of quite a few players, and then you can be looking to get it in on most flops (hopefully you're HU or 3-way at the most).
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Shep
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SoCal
Posts: 20
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I'll agree. RAISE!
You have to get the weak hands out. A pot size raise should force out suited connectors and an ace with a week kicker.
Once you see the flop has no over cards of your Q's, time to take it down!
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curtom
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 28
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You absolutely have to raise there. Not only are there way too many people in the pot but you have no idea of where your at. Not good. Raise!!
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
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RR pre to thin out the crap that a flop like that will hit hard. and, then, ON a flop like that either c/r AI or open push. at a 55% table, you have to play QQ like AA, imo, or you will go broke waiting for AA. if they draw out, they draw out. welcome to high variance poker.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
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You have to raise preflop here.
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Lukie
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: back with a vengeance
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Chopper
RR pre to thin out the crap that a flop like that will hit hard. and, then, ON a flop like that either c/r AI or open push. at a 55% table, you have to play QQ like AA, imo, or you will go broke waiting for AA. if they draw out, they draw out. welcome to high variance poker.
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i usually play QQ like AA at all limits with good results.
definitely jack this one up and try to get it aipf or in on most flops.
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