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miracleriver
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08-13-2007, 05:57 PM
Post subject: QQ, raised all-in on flop
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 173
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2NL FR, 2nd orbit at the table and no read.
Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.02 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP2 ($1.52)
MP3 ($.97)
CO ($.69)
Button ($3.88)
SB ($1.50)
Hero ($2)
UTG ($1.84)
UTG+1 ($1)
MP1 ($1.94)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q . UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.02.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, MP1 raises to $0.04, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Button calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.22, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.18, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Button folds.
Flop: ($0.59) 3 , J , 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.4, MP1 raises to $1.72 (All-in), Hero ???
bad call?
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Pythonic
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Flush
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Id probably call this, villian most likely has KJ, AJ but look out for A3s.
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Never bet on a white man in the heavyweight division!
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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Id instacall this at 2NL. A 3 or a J are both in his range but he has a J more often because its more playable preflop and because there are more combinations on that board.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Chicago_Kid
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Full House
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cawl...take your beats if their there. This is usually TP
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"Been gone so long, forgot how to poker"
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
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Easy call at 2nl.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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poker_pup
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Straight
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If I had no reads on my opponents playing style, I'd probably fold.
I base this decision entirely on this article, located in this forum's stickies:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-32893.htm
Basically, the article says that at low stakes, if you hold TPTK or an over pair, then bet 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot and are raised, then you are most likely beat. I play $10NL and have to say that in my limited experience, it holds true.
Just a guess here, but I'd guess that the villian was holding A 3 suited.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
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call the push with an overpair at 2NL. 10NL, too.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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bode
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Straight Flush
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snap call. I like the raise size pre to isolate also.
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eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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Vrax
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Full House
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Originally Posted by poker_pup
If I had no reads on my opponents playing style, I'd probably fold.
I base this decision entirely on this article, located in this forum's stickies:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-32893.htm
Basically, the article says that at low stakes, if you hold TPTK or an over pair, then bet 1/2 to 2/3 of the pot and are raised, then you are most likely beat. I play $10NL and have to say that in my limited experience, it holds true.
Just a guess here, but I'd guess that the villian was holding A 3 suited.
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Please don't fold big overpairs in threebet pots with standard stacks behind. kthx gg.
This article is written for raised pots (not re-raised), lots of money behind (3 potsized bets or more) and against very passive opponents who aren't capable of deep, daring bluffs and don't raise when they can't beat unimproved AA.
3bet pots are quite different story. The only rational hand that can beat QQ here is JJ and trappy KK.
Aok should make another section in his PP system, involving playing re-raised pots (before new players start to setfarm AA in 3bet pots).
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"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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markmarksson
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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qq complicated hand!
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