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Old 12-21-2009, 09:33 PM     Post subject: QQ facing huge 4 bet #1 (permalink)  
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 UTG limper is a big fish - he was playing around 70% of hands and very station like post flop.

CO was 15/12/1.8 over 40 hands.
Guess he would have perceived me as a TAG, if he actually pays attention.

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MP ($4.04)
CO ($5.70)
Button ($6.76)
SB ($2)
Hero (BB) ($6.23)
UTG ($7.86)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, CO bets $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, UTG calls $0.80, CO raises to $3
Hero tanks:

Ok so I think CO will isolate UTG with a slightly wider range of hands than normal, but not really that much more than his VPIP.

Looking back at the hand I wonder if calling is better preflop so the fish stays in the pot and keeps both their ranges wide.

Anyway after 3 betting I was planning to shove over a 4 bet/call a shove, but after using pokerstove I'm slightly behind his 4 bet range {QQ+,AK}(comments on range}. Should I be trying to get QQ in preflop vs this kind of player or is 3bet/fold better?
 
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Old 12-21-2009, 10:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 naw, you need to 3bet. You're going to be oop and will also have some fairly bad relative position as well so just calling the CO isnt gonna fly. AA and AK probably shove instead of 4b, JJ-99 and AQ flat or fold, so we got like {qq, kk, 1/2ak and 2/3 AA} or so imo. Without reason to think hes doing this any wider and without sufficient odds to mine it looks like a fold
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