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02-02-2010, 11:33 PM Post subject: QJo @10NL FR

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Preflop: I love to steal monies from Limpers and The BB was semi tight VP 15%. No stats on Villain. So I think the preflop raise is questionable.

Flop: This is a poor bet since a limper has tons of shit that he will call with AXs,89 Sets, maybe even TT-JJ, that range destroys me. So Flop was dumb. Also by betting so hard i may remove 67o, which is where a big portion of my big profits will come from.

Turn Pairs board: But it does not complete any flush draws or straight draws. Since based on his range FD and SD made up large component of his range Betting here may not be that stupid, though his continuing range just utterly destroys, unless he is really bad, which in that case he can have a 4.

So if he drops all draws here only 88,99 remain and TT, and 89.

River comes: Sweet Nut straight. Nice little value bet, which is dumb as i should shove, since the only thing I am beating here is 89,9T (if that's even in his range). and everything else crushes me. His reraise should make it obvoius that I am beat.....I call.

And though the result is surprising, won't tell you what it is. The way the hand played out I lose money the majority of the time.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($10)
MP1 ($9.45)
MP2 ($8.85)
MP3 ($10.40)
CO ($5.40)
Button ($33.20)
Hero (SB) ($10.45)
BB ($10.20)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, Q

2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 8

, 9

, 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, MP1 calls $0.80

Turn: ($2.50) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2

River: ($6.50) 10

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.40, MP1 raises to $6.25 (All-In), Hero calls $2.85

Total pot: $19 | Rake: $0.90

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eragotte

02-03-2010, 12:19 AM

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pre why raise? what is in his limp range that isn't in his call in position raise vs just you... i know i call like any 2 but then again i dont limp...

flop meh... i dont mind, turn c/f without stellar reads please... on river u might as well go all in as played... i dont mind a smallish vbet to get A9 or tt to call...

bets on his hand 7s6s or AA or 88 lol

d0zer

02-03-2010, 01:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eragotte

on river u might as well go all in as played

So you don't advocate folding the nuts getting absurdly good odds?

edit: oh you mean shove river ldo.

Pre is meh ok imo, turn is obv spew.

oskar

02-03-2010, 01:06 AM

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preflop is meh. You don't want to iso with crap oop. Q6s would be fine from the BTN against most open limpers, but SB is simply the most horrible position on the table. I'd still complete.

You're never folding out 67 on the flop! Why would he fold 67. You've got 10 outs against most of his calling range. Check/folding or check/calling would be criminal.

Turn is hopeless. He'll call with his entire flop range. You could blockbet c/c or c/r depending on the player.

Just shove the river. If you get called at all, he'll also call a shove. Sucks for you he had a boat.

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eragotte

02-03-2010, 01:09 AM

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Quote:

So you don't advocate folding the nuts getting absurdly good odds?

boaRD is paired, a lot of his calling range is boats, obviously not close to enough to not go all in though, obvious to you, maybe not for every bcer

Donachello

02-03-2010, 01:57 AM

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Donachello will become famous soon enough

My bet is on 76s or an awfully played AA here. Then again if he limps AA he's probably also limping 99 and 88.

AS said before: meh @ opening, arguments for and against. Turn is major spew since nothing that calls the flop will likely fold this turn. I'm probably c/f here unless he bets some tard amount like .10. River as played is an insta-shove.

[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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