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pokerlearner

08-28-2006, 05:33 PM Post subject: pushing on the flop ok here ??

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B&M 300$ Buy In ($2-$5 blinds)
Hero and villain both have 600$ stacks.

Table ultra loose. I raised 20$ with AK and got called by 4 people. Raised 50$ with QQ and got called by 2 people.
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Hand 1:

Hero is Ah-Ac on the BB.
UTG limps, MP1 limps, MP3 limps, CO raises to 15, Hero reraises to 95, CO calls.

Flop: Qd-5d-3d
Hero ??

In actual circumstances, I pushed. Villain folded.

Q 1: But was it the correct move ? I was risking 500$ to win 220$.

However, my reasoning was that if i bet 200$ in a 220$ pot, then if villain calls and a diamond hits, even if villain doesnt have the diamond, i cant bet and i cant call for remaining 300$. Better to take it down now. than bet 200$ and get commited and then see a diamond hit the turn.

But that will be like praying that he doesnt have Ad-Kd or QQ. Because only those 3 hands can call a 100$ preflop raise.

I find myself pushing on the flop too much in these situations. need some advice.
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Hand 2:
Villain has Hero covered. Hero has 250$ behind. Villain about 400$

Hero is JJ on the button.

MP1 limps, mP3 limps, CO limps, Hero raises to 25, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: 6c-8c-10d
MP3 bets 50, Hero raises 225 all in, MP3 calls.

Question 2: Hand 2 happened before hand 1 and i didnt know that the raise of 25$ would be called by 3 people or else i wouldve just raised to 40. However, there is 150$ in the pot and i am risking 225$ provided i am not drawing dead already to a set or flopped straight. this was my first hand i played at the table and i buy in short (200$ at a 300$ buyin) and looking to double up and then play conservatively.

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BankItDrew

08-28-2006, 05:43 PM

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I did the same thing as in Hand 1 on saturday night @ the live casino. I re-raise from postion with AKh and got one caller. Queen high spade flop and I push the flop, checker calls with AJs. I think that betting the pot would be just as effective sometimes.

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martindcx1e

08-28-2006, 09:29 PM

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you should never just push in spots like this just cuz your afraid of getting outdrawn.

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MiJ

08-29-2006, 04:01 PM

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hand 1
i agree with martindcx1e, you want your opponent to make mistakes, if you dont give him the right odds to call (say he has 1 diamond and is drawing) and he chases... then your gaining because he's making a mistake...you have to get comfortable with this concept in NL holdem ...

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