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Old 10-26-2009, 04:46 PM     Post subject: PSB on the flop vs 2 loose opponents, implied odds? #1 (permalink)  
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I'd only been at the table for 10 hands or so but both villains had seen at least 7 of the flops and had multiple show downs with the worst hand. On the flop does calling have reasonable +EV and implied odds assuming the loose player behind can reasonable be expected to call as well? (I had seen him call several PSBs on the flop already with the worst of it)

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saw flop

MP3 ($1.95)
Villain2 (CO) ($0.80)
Button ($0.87)
SB ($1.13)
BB ($0.40)
Villain (UTG) ($0.98)
UTG+1 ($0.48)
MP1 ($2)
Hero (MP2) ($2)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, J
Villain bets $0.08, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.08, 1 fold, Villain2 calls $0.06, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.27) 4, 3, A (3 players)
Villain bets $0.27, Hero ???
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:03 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Implied odds are mediocre here only 4.5 to 1 if you know he is stacking off even when the 3rd heart hits. This looks like to me a strong ace protecting so he's usually not paying you off when the flush hits. The only time it looks real profitable is if you know villian 2 is calling/stacking off on a heart. The combo of villain2 two folding and villian1 not stacking making this very -ev. If you had position on both this would be a good play but right here its real ugly, surrender the 4bb, and learn that QJs is not an mp hand.
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