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miracleriver
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06-01-2007, 02:25 AM
Post subject: preflop implied odds question
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Straight
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($2.96)
UTG ($1.02)
MP1 ($1.14)
Hero ($8.25)
CO ($0.97)
Button ($1.83)
SB ($2.85)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8 , 8 .
2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.1, 3 folds, Hero ???
Given that CO has less than 15x raise left (i.e. I dont get implied odds to be set hunting), it is an error to flat call, right? If so and with no read on villain, is this a spot where I should put CO all-in or should I just fold?
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gingerwizard
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4-of-a-Kind
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look for 10x Raise not 15. (15 is good for SNGs not cash)
You have implieds and I insta call.
Just make sure you spike the set and make him pay for overplaying is premium hands
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miracleriver
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Straight
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but after his raise, he's left with $0.87, still < 10x raise. Or do I need to consider his whole stack before the raise to figure out implied odds? And with his stack being so close to the 10x limit, don't I need to be fairly sure that he will put the rest of his stack in for me to think I have implied odds anyways?
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gingerwizard
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4-of-a-Kind
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you have to call $0.8 < 10x$0.87
Its all about how much you need to call, not how much he raised
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miracleriver
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Straight
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ok i see. thanks for the clarification.
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biondino
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Also, 88 is a made hand and will win (or at least be the best hand) against AK, AQ etc. often enough to make this call fine.
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Chopper
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Straight Flush
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at these stakes i think i call. at 100 NL, i think i fold w/o a LAGGy read on villain.
in other words, its a marginal situation w/ 88. with TT+, sure, but A9o is a coin flip with you, as is KT, QJ, hell, J9s.
and theres no guarantee you get his stack.
that said, i prolly call, too.
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