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Berksmickey
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01-12-2006, 03:54 PM
Post subject: Pre-flop odds
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3-of-a-Kind
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Howdy
This might not be easily explained here, but i wondered if anyone knew nonetheless.
Sometimes watching tourny's on the TV, when 2 players go All-In, and turn over their cards, they will say what the odds of them beating their opponent are and are normally within a couple of % of what the TV show is saying, and i just wondered how on earth they do it so quickly?
I can do Turn / River odds without any problems, but can't quite get my head around working out pre-flop odds
Anyone?
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badandy519
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Straight
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Alot of those, the commentary is done after the tourney is actually played and some of it is just a generalization...... A dominated hand is usually about 75/25 ie AK vs AQ, unpaired over cards to under cards is usually about 65/35, and overpair vs underpair is about 80/20, and something like A8 vs KQ is about 60/40. I think that covers them all. You can use pokerstove to look up any scenario you want.
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Staresy
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by badandy519
You can use pokerstove to look up any scenario you want.
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yeah, that's the thing to do. Type in certain scenarios (e.g. a pair vs one over and one under, Ace-Middle vs Two Broadways, AK v KQ, stuff like that) and make a note of them. Before you know it, they will become 2nd nature.
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Berksmickey
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3-of-a-Kind
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Sorry, i meant it was the actual players themselves saying it, not commentators, so i wondered if there was a less accurate, but quick way to guestimate the odds....
thanks though
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badandy519
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Straight
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Yeah, I figured you meant the players not the commentators after i reread it, but I was to lazy to edit my post. As far as the guestimates, the ones I posted should be most of the ones you will need. The only one I missed was AK vs a PP.... like 66+ is about 55/45. That's all ya need to go by:
80/20
75/25
66/34
60/40
55/45
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