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DrStrangeShove
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11-10-2009, 02:38 PM
Post subject: Pre all-ins in micro
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($40.30)
SB ($5.40)
BB ($7.15)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($32.95)
MP1 ($5.35)
MP2 ($12.70)
Hero (MP3) ($9.65)
CO ($17.35)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A , K
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero bets $1, CO calls $1, 3 folds, UTG raises to $5 (All-In)
Strange play from UTG. Limp then shove. If I call, Im about 90% sure CO will fold. Im not big on calling pre shove but this villain is somwhat tiltish. Any suggestions on Pre all-in's in cash games? And especially in micro stakes where strange plays are almost the norm.
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spoonitnow
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Put each opponent on a range, and for the CO you need to decide what portion of his range calls if you go all-in (since you're basically getting it in on the flop always if for whatever reason you just call and CO calls). Then download PokerStove if you haven't already and figure out if you're +EV.
This post should help get you started http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...in-t87954.html and shows how to figure out if a call is going to be +EV if you close the action (which is similar to this scenario except for the CO being in).
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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JR9477
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What I find strange is everyone's stacks size on the table, yours included.
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Arjonius
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At this level, the hand range for the limp-shove is quite heavily weighted toward big pairs, especially AA. Unless I have some reason to put this particular opponent on a wider range, putting more money in the pot is probably -EV.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by Arjonius
At this level, the hand range for the limp-shove is quite heavily weighted toward big pairs, especially AA. Unless I have some reason to put this particular opponent on a wider range, putting more money in the pot is probably -EV.
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You need to go here and read this too http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...in-t87954.html
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Sasquach991
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Originally Posted by Arjonius
At this level, the hand range for the limp-shove is quite heavily weighted toward big pairs, especially AA. Unless I have some reason to put this particular opponent on a wider range, putting more money in the pot is probably -EV.
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Even if his range is AA,KK,QQ you still have equity with AKo. About 30% I believe. Without QQ it's still about 18%.
this is assuming no CO.
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surviva316
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1) move down stakes (notice, plural). i played for 6 months before i touched 25nl and can't exactly say i pwned for the first month of playing there.
2) buyin for full.
3) read a lot.
4) good luck
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