Poker Forum

Over 1,246,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Beginners Circle

  > 

Pot odds and Calculation of outs

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
stragf
Old 01-26-2006, 02:42 AM     Post subject: Pot odds and Calculation of outs #1 (permalink)  
stragf's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 15
stragf
Please forgive the total ignorance of the question...being a fairly seasoned player, BUT, assume 10 payers, nlhe, and it goes heads up with one on the flush draw after the turn (four flush). How is it we use 52-4(flop+turn)-2(hole cards)=46 cards with 9(left of suit)/46 as the outs for the flush on the river, when 16 other cards, (eight players x two hole cards) have folded. Even with random distribution of suits, why do we not discount for these cards?
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
finky
Old 01-26-2006, 09:10 AM #2 (permalink)  
finky's Avatar
Flush

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 270
finky
Because there's random distribution...

Put it another way, say I had 52 cards, the chance that the top card is a heart is 1:4, agreed? Now if I take the bottom 10 cards from that deck and hide them behind my back, does the probability of the top card being a heart change? No, those other cards are still part of the total sample as long as they remain unknown.
Reply With Quote
EricE
Old 01-27-2006, 07:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
Full House

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 894
EricE
Yep. Those folded cards are just as unknown as the cards remaining in the deck. We don't know anything about them so we have to count them as part of the deck.

The only time this would change is if we somehow knew something about what cards were folded.
Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL
 
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
KoRnholio Old 05-26-2012, 03:08 PM    Australia Legalized Online Poker coming up in next 6 to 12 Months
According to an email sent out by Mark Bryan, a gaming analyst at Merrill Lynch, the Australian government plans to legalize online poker sometime in the next six to 12 months. This move will coincide ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:06 AM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.