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Old 07-18-2006, 02:49 PM     Post subject: Pot building line check #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #5598882835: Hold'em Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/07/18 - 10:37:05 (ET)
Table 'Libera' 10-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: The_Stew ($13.60 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerboxer ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: NPhard ($18.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Ben2m ($8.30 in chips)
Seat 6: Hardfelt ($13.35 in chips)
Seat 7: NuWere ($28.15 in chips)
Seat 8: schafsheep ($9.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Cue-ball 66 ($24.75 in chips)
Seat 10: miktam ($18.90 in chips)
NuWere: posts small blind $0.10
schafsheep: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to NuWere [Th Tc]
Cue-ball 66: folds
miktam: folds
The_Stew: folds
pokerboxer: folds
NPhard: folds
Ben2m: raises $0.25 to $0.50
Hardfelt: folds
NuWere: raises $0.25 to $0.75
schafsheep: folds
Ben2m: calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Ad Td 5c]
NuWere: checks
Ben2m: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad Td 5c] [5s]
NuWere: bets $0.50
Ben2m: raises $0.50 to $1
NuWere: PAUSES AWHILE THEN calls $0.50

I, of course, intend to CR the river.

Results in white; not what you'd expect, but that's irrelevant. is it better just to fire at this flop? Two flush cards but HU?

*** RIVER *** [Ad Td 5c 5s] [Ac]
NuWere: checks
Ben2m: bets $0.50
NuWere: calls $0.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ben2m: shows [Ks As] (a full house, Aces full of Fives)
NuWere: mucks hand
Ben2m collected $4.55 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.75 | Rake $0.20
Board [Ad Td 5c 5s Ac]
Seat 1: The_Stew folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: pokerboxer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: NPhard folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Ben2m showed [Ks As] and won ($4.55) with a full house, Aces full of Fives
Seat 6: Hardfelt (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: NuWere (small blind) mucked [Th Tc]
Seat 8: schafsheep (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Cue-ball 66 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: miktam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 07-18-2006, 02:53 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 This is bad. You're not building a pot at all. If you don't bet the flop, then bet the turn harder.. and if he raises you, reraise it!
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:26 PM #3 (permalink)  
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this is limit
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I don't like this line.

I lead the flop, you 3bet preflop. When he calls, check the turn (to signal you gave up) and raise his bet, lead the river.

You'll get 1.5BB preflop, 0.5BB on the flop, 2BB on the turn, 1BB on the river. This is 5BB.

Your lines give 1.5BB preflop, 0BB on the flop, 2BB on the turn and 1 BB on river. That is 4.5BB.

As played, I 3bet the turn and check call (As you did) that disgustingly ugly river.
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Don't i get 2 BB on the river with the CR? i.e. 5.5 total
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Old 07-18-2006, 03:57 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You didn't CR the river, you check called, as you should have.

Post this is the small stakes limit forum, ask the limits PROS! I'm only a limit novice.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:00 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'm a limit novice, too. Please don't take this as argumentation: I didn't CR the river because one of the 2 cards that counterfeits my hand came. The other 95% of these situations like this, I'm getting 5.5 bets from this line.
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Old 07-18-2006, 04:14 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Never taking that as an arguement. I'm calling you an idiot if you raise that river, heh.

I think this line is better. 3bet preflop as played. Lead the flop, lead the turn, lead the river.

As played there, 3bet preflop, lead the flop, lead that turn, 3bet the turn, lead the river.

As played, you'll be 1.5BB + 0.5BB + 3BB + 1BB (minimum)

And he may fold on the river, which will let you win the pot. He may even raise your river bet, allowing you to 3bet, gaining another 2BB.
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:11 PM #9 (permalink)  
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lefou, post these in the limit forums.

As a general rule, slowplaying is bad, especially at lower limits when people will peel one off on the flop with any 2. You'll find that you will get more bets in on average just by betting out.
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