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Old 06-15-2010, 10:36 PM     Post subject: pokerstove help #1 (permalink)  
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 ok i have AsQh on a

Ad 3c 8d 6c 7c

pokerstove says i have 49% equity vs A2s+,Td9d,9d5d,7d6d,7d3d,6d3d,A2o+

where as i counted it out and there are 91 total combos, of which i beat 48 (48/91= 52.7%), 6 that i split with (6/91 = 6.6%) and 37 which beat me (37/91= 40.7).

Why is my equity so low when i am winning over 52% of the time?
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:28 PM #2 (permalink)  
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ok i have AsQh on a

Ad 3c 8d 6c 7c

pokerstove says i have 49% equity vs A2s+,Td9d,9d5d,7d6d,7d3d,6d3d,A2o+
A2 - You win 7 of 8
A3 - You win 0 of 6
A4 - You win 7 of 8
A5 - You win 7 of 8
A6 - You win 0 of 6
A7 - You win 0 of 6
A8 - You win 0 of 6
A9 - You win 7 of 8
AT - You win 7 of 8
AJ - You win 7 of 8
AQ - You tie 5 of 6 (lose one)
AK - You win 0 of 8
Td9d - You win 0 of 1
9d5d - You win 0 of 1
7d6d - You win 0 of 1
7d3d - You win 0 of 1
6d3d - You win 0 of 1

I get 42 wins, 44 losses and 5 ties out of 91

44.5/91 = 0.4890

Looks like that's what PokerStove gets too:

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

  91  games     0.005 secs    18,200  games/sec

Board: Ad 3c 8d 6c 7c
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	48.901%  	46.15% 	02.75% 	            42 	        2.50   { AsQh }
Hand 1: 	51.099%  	48.35% 	02.75% 	            44 	        2.50   { A2s+, Td9d, 9d5d, 7d6d, 7d3d, 6d3d, A2o+ }
Also, for what it's worth, if you have the AcQh instead you move up to 56% equity.
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 ohhhh i didnt realize there was the club flush on the board, thanks spoon for shedding the light on that, i appreciate it
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ohhhh i didnt realize there was the club flush on the board, thanks spoon for shedding the light on that, i appreciate it
Yeah I sort of figured that's what it was but thought it would be more clear just to list the hands hehe. Don't sweat it though, I promise I've done it more often than you can imagine. =)
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.

Rule # 1: don't ask questions

Rule # 2: don't ask questions

I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
 
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