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Unibomber14
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06-11-2007, 08:32 AM
Post subject: PokerEdge alternate?
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Flush
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I am looking for a program to give me stats for players on Absolute. PokerEdge doesn't support it, and seems to have some faults anyway. What do you use?
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acesfullokings
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sydney
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Use Pokertracker and Data Mine?
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I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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SHAKE
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2007
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PE will support Absolute soon (w/new updat) And what flaws that thing is a goldmine
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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it miss reresents people. I have a vp$ip of 22.97 and after flop agression total of 1.97. Poker-edge says i am to passive post flop. The thing is where i play it is very hard to get an aggression rate of 2+ as people only bet and raise strong hands.
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SHAKE
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Flush
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Originally Posted by littleogre
it miss reresents people. I have a vp$ip of 22.97 and after flop agression total of 1.97. Poker-edge says i am to passive post flop. The thing is where i play it is very hard to get an aggression rate of 2+ as people only bet and raise strong hands.
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wrong i think. I have an ag of 3.5 , your just playing to passivly. Ag factor is reduced the more you call. If you only raised or folded every desission youd have an ag of infinty. You dont raise enough, ie you problyo only raise the t and r with the best hand. Check your wts and wwsf. Im wiling to bet they are both high.
What they rate people as far as icons go is their oppinion, you can change the icons to suit you, i have rules for 6 max where a fish is
VPIP>30
PFR<1
ag<1.5
for six max thats reall loose passive.
At full ring you should run TAG wich base stats are 19/8/2.0
6 max more along the lines of 26/14/2.5
WTS between 30-35 for both and always keep your W$@S above 50.
WWSF is a tough one to give a standerd on as it corralates with all your other stats. For a maiac wwsf should be high and W@$S would probly be low, and vice verca for a tag or rock.
myWWSF is 34.75 went to sd is 34 with 56 W@S. I manage 2.5bb/100 over20-30K hands at 6 max .25.50 up to 3-6
if you dont think stats help your in the wrong profession. Stats are all we have online to make reads. If i sit down and a 11/3/1.0 player raises UTG i can safly muck AQ where as if i diddnt know i might 3-bet more then likly dead to a few outs.
Same goes for maniacs, ill 3-bet A9s+ and any pair aginst someone raiseing 18-22%. I love a table with maniacs, as long as i spot them they are just as profitable as fish.
I also set up an icon for calling station, the real money inpoker. I know regular players playing 6 max running 64/0/.33 with 84wts and 22W@S
i dont care who you are, if you know anything about poker this guy is buying you lunch if you sit at the table with them.
Table selection is so huge in poker if you want to make money. Out playing and all that is great but when it comes down to it there are only 2 types of playerss, those with +bb/100 and those with -bb/100. The more of the latter at your table the more EV+ poker is for you. Why shun a tool that tells you who is who?
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Theres a datamining application for absolute...
http://www.visitthesaint.com/softwar...lute-solution/
But PE is totally the nuts.
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
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I understand all that but since you were kind enough to respond here are my stats. Perhaps someone can be so kind as to tell me where i need to change things. I want bore you with every single stat just the ones that most people conceiter most important
Vp$ip 21.92% ( not overly tight or loose imo)
went to showdown 34.25
won at showdown 54.38
pfr 9.97
aggression factor not including showdown 1.93
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Plenty of people make plenty of money with those stats. Lots of people lose lots of money with those stats.
Post flop is everything.
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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well poker-edge has me listed as a red fish. Then again they also say i am at pokerstars. I have not played at PS in over 20k hands.
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SHAKE
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Flush
Join Date: Jun 2007
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yeah those stats are prfitable, just a little loose, (hence red fish)
19.0 is what iver heard the highest profitable full ring VPIP is. Ive seen people make money with 15 but thats just nitty!
your showdown stats seem fine. Whats your attempt to steal?
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by littleogre
well poker-edge has me listed as a red fish. Then again they also say i am at pokerstars. I have not played at PS in over 20k hands. |
20k hands is two weeks to a lot of pros.
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SHAKE
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Flush
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2k hands a day + is pretty standerd 1.5K easy 4 tabling
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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I'm lucky if i get in 400 hondred hands in one day 
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Unibomber14
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Originally Posted by euphoricism
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I do like PE, but most of my money is on Absolute right now, through Visa deposit. Since I am sort of accustomed to Absolute, I want to keep playing there.
Thanks for the link, a few of the things on that site might come in handy.
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"$80 million Submarine mansion. Think about it."
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SHAKE
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Flush
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pe will support absolute soon, it is a great tool but if you have a large PT data base for Absolute it may not be worth it to you.
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Unibomber14
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Flush
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I don't have any database. I can't seem to get the absolute hand history email thing to work for me.
Aaargh!!
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