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bigspenda73
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12-26-2008, 05:24 AM
Post subject: Poker New Years Resolution (POST and ye shall receive HALP)
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Straight Flush
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Ok, my idea for helping everyone. Pick something you believe you need to get better at. I will then pick 4-5 of them and we'll start a thread on each and discuss ways to improve
Unacceptable topics:
1. how to get away from AA in a 4bet pot
2. folding KK PF less than 500bb's deep
3. folding my set
gogogogogogogogo
Happy Channukah
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kmind
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Knowing when to attack regulars with air/overs/gutters/whatever and knowing when to follow up on later streets.
Also, knowing what GOOD porn sites to look at while multitabling.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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I should also note I'm going to delete any posts that are off-topic or blatantly sarcastic, so don't bother if that's your sole intent.
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kb coolman
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Flush
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For a serious post:
What is the best way to define an opponent's range outside of showdowns?
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AnTman_69
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Flush
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How does one improve self discipline.
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Ragnar4
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Full House
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In your videos.. You'll end up saying. "yeah there's value here" and then betting some amount smaller than the final pot which they inevidably call.
No matter how hard I try, I can't replicate that.
So Value on the River. So an essay titled A How To Guide: For Ragnar4. would be really nice.
Happy Channukah.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Let's be more specific, so far only ragnar has posted a leak
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AFchung
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Full House
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folding TPTK on dry boards to aggression from weak tights 
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Jeffakong
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I still have immense trouble with the middle stages of a tournament. I have read the how to win at MTT's by Xianti/soupie and yet I still have trouble. I guess the main reason would be I am unsure of when to gamble and when to stay tight. Should I be shoving my AQo with less than 10M? Should I wait for a pocket pair or suited broadways? I can almost guarantee myself still in the tournament after the first hour. My stacks always varies but its never to the point where I am less than 10-15M coming back from break. If you have any tips that could help push me through to the final table I would appreciate it greatly.
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mieczkowusc
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Straight
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What are the different ways you should be playing mid to small pocket pairs against either a single opponent or multiple opponents?
How does this strategy change when you hit your set, and what line is usually optimal to get the monies in?
What situations are good places to two barrel, and are these bluffs or are you actually extracting value from worse hands when you do it?
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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re-phrase your questions into statements about your leaks
like Jeffakong is closer, his leak would seem to be being too tight in tournaments when his stack is dwindling.
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Illfavor
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I have trouble identifying the spots, when facing large bets from vills, when I'm way behind.
EX: 100BB stacks I have 99 UTG (6max) and get flatted from the Button. The flop is 842, 3 suits. I bet and opponents calls. Turn is a Q, I bet, opponent raises large or shoves and I usually call and lose.
Great thread, btw. Spenda is the man.
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Ich grolle nicht...
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mrhappy333
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getting away from over pairs on an uncoordinated board
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3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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mieczkowusc
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Straight
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
re-phrase your questions into statements about your leaks
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I have problems after the flop with pocket pairs between 55-TT, because I don't know when/where to effectively cbet them or when/where to c/f. When I do hit a set with my pocket pairs, I have a hard time getting the money in without chasing people away.
I have problems after the flop when I get donked into with hands like AK or AQs that missed the flop, where I know that my equity against the opponents range is high, but I don't know how to handle the weak lead.
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kmind
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You are confusing me. I get way too aggro and try to steal every pot postflop vs. 100NL regulars on dry boards when they are the PFR. Then I shut down almost always on turn if called.
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will641
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4-of-a-Kind
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i want to learn how to adjust better to my opponents, and understand why the adjustments are correct, etc.
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Cash Rules Everything Around Me.
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mieczkowusc
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Straight
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Originally Posted by will641
i want to learn how to adjust better to my opponents, and understand why the adjustments are correct, etc.
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I second that.
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hangchiong
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thanks for a good thread spenda
my aim is to make my move from 25nl to 50 nl in 2 months(jan and feb)
help>
1.c-betting(flop and 2barrel the turn)need to improve my skills on this
2.adjusting to opponents
3.to deal against opp who floats a lot,and to improve my floating skills.
thanks spenda.
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I don't take control of pots where betting as a bluff is correct, I bet as a bluff because I have air on the river and I was the aggressor. This means that I miss good opportunities to bluff, and I bluff in spots where my opponent has a hand he wants to take to showdown.
I'm starting to think that I shouldn't bluff without reads. Of course that's probably wrong, because there are some spots where even fish would fold because my line looks so strong.
For example, I had a hand where my opponent's range was small underpairs and AK unimproved, because I cbet the flop, checked back the turn and he led the river for 1/3. I should have raised him as a bluff for sure because he can't call a river raise with his range. Of course, having checked back the turn is problematic because if I had a good hand (and the river was a blank) I would probably not opt to pot control due to the straight draw. Although my line would semi-make sense with TPTK worried about sets.
tl;dr how do I pick spots when to bluff, other than when my own range look strong
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Robb
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Getting value of out of decent broadway hands in LP with a flat call, hands like KJ or KTs that probably won't play well against a TAGG PFR in a 3bet pot but are too good fold. I can cold call, sure, but then knowing what to do on the flop is a big mystery to me, especially when TAGG villain cbets after I've caught a small piece of the flop. Right now I just guess and hope, but that really seems leakish, dontcha think?
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daven
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Straight Flush
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1) effective use of position postlop (leak = i do this poorly)
2) overpairs against strong players oop
3) reg-war strategy
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OhBollocks
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Straight
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I put Villains on too tight a range and hence miss a lot of value. I watched your GS vid on hand reading and it rocks imo but I'd love a good discussion thread about handreading. I think most everyone here would benefit from it.
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Originally Posted by ISF
Nothing actually changes in a poker game besides equity....
When we can maximize our equity, we will make lots and lots of money.
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Illfavor
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Full House
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Originally Posted by OhBollocks
I'd love a good discussion thread about handreading. I think most everyone here would benefit from it.
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That would be fantastic.
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Ich grolle nicht...
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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keep 'em coming, we're going to start the threads on jan. 1st
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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So far here are the leaks that seem to be coming up, I will state them in leak form
1. I do not get enough value on the river from the bottom of my range
2. I tend to blind-down in tournaments due to passivity
3. I mis-read my opponent's hand range which causes me to stack-off too light
4. I don't adjust against properly against wide ranges
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Keith
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Full House
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not sure if this is going to be covered byleak 1 or 3 or if its a new one . But the situation where i have JJ,QQ,KK and raised it well pre flop , and again possibly on the flop and then turn or river brings the overcard.If i slow down , I usually would have beaten others or receive a big bet back at me but if i keep betting and try to represent that the overcard doesn't worry me and I'll lose a stack load.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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leaks guys, not topics that are way too vague to attempt to discuss on a forum.
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
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I think I have a leak in only being able to express my shortcomings in poker as sentences instead of leaks.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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My leak is that I call bets too often
sometimes it's preflop where I should probably be raising instead of limping behind
more often than not, I call small bets with terrible hands with almost no chance of winning
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hagscel
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2008
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i`m still in trouble with thin valuebetting. Sometimes it`s like having it at the "tip of my tongue", next time I seem too err completely. Especially blind duels and preflop lp raises vs calls or reraises from the blinds seem to put me in awkward situations, either already preflop or on later streets
hence, I would appreciate threads that deal with
a) preflop 3betting/4betting
b) betting thinly for value on turn and river
spenda, I really appreciate your change from funny/rude commenting to serious "help people to help themselves and make them start thinking". as a mod you`ll be a true enrichment to the BC.
hags
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sometimes naked
sometimes mad
now the fool
now the scholar
thus they appear on earth:
the free men.
-Hindu verse
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Monty3038
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12-30-2008, 03:52 PM
Post subject: Re: Poker New Years Resolution (POST and ye shall receive HA
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#31 (permalink)
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Full House
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
Ok, my idea for helping everyone. Pick something you believe you need to get better at. I will then pick 4-5 of them and we'll start a thread on each and discuss ways to improve
Unacceptable topics:
1. how to get away from AA in a 4bet pot
2. folding KK PF less than 500bb's deep
3. folding my set
gogogogogogogogo
Happy Channukah
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Determining if a 'check' or small bet for pot control is better to keep villian from bluffing at pot.
Playing suited connectors effectively (including positional discussions)
Quickly identifying flush/straight draw opponents and effectively manipulating them without getting stacked
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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only like 36 more hours to post your leaks!
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Illfavor
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Full House
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Also,
Identifying when, towards the end of a session, I've lost my focus and either regaining it or stopping.
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Ich grolle nicht...
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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my biggest leak is that I am not a grinder. I just don't have that "put a shit ton of volume in" in me. How can I make this a question for you to answer?
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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angrystoc
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12-30-2008, 07:37 PM
Post subject: Re: Poker New Years Resolution (POST and ye shall receive HA
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#35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Monty3038
Playing suited connectors effectively (including positional discussions)
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particularly OOP or with dirty outs (I get my OESD, but the flop is 2 suited in other suits)
I stopped playing sc's except in huge multi-ways, because my post flop was so leaky.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
my biggest leak is that I am not a grinder. I just don't have that "put a shit ton of volume in" in me. How can I make this a question for you to answer?
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lulz you did it right the first time, I haven't asked for questions, I'm looking for statements.
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swiggidy
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
my biggest leak is that I am not a grinder. I just don't have that "put a shit ton of volume in" in me. How can I make this a question for you to answer?
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You realize he's the last person you should be asking this question right?
If so nh sir.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
my biggest leak is that I am not a grinder. I just don't have that "put a shit ton of volume in" in me. How can I make this a question for you to answer?
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You realize he's the last person you should be asking this question right?
If so nh sir. |
yea yea yea whatevs
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
my biggest leak is that I am not a grinder. I just don't have that "put a shit ton of volume in" in me. How can I make this a question for you to answer?
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You realize he's the last person you should be asking this question right?
If so nh sir. |
Wat.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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o snap
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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OhBollocks
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Straight
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Originally Posted by iopq
My leak is that I call bets too often
sometimes it's preflop where I should probably be raising instead of limping behind
more often than not, I call small bets with terrible hands with almost no chance of winning
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ight=willpower
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Originally Posted by ISF
Nothing actually changes in a poker game besides equity....
When we can maximize our equity, we will make lots and lots of money.
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