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bef99hwk
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02-11-2007, 11:23 PM
Post subject: Poker.com
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3-of-a-Kind
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Tonight, I lost over 100 bucks when I hit a nut flush, they hit a full house...i get a straight, they hit full house....I bet this site has given out over 10 full houses. I multitable (2 tables) but only played about 3 hours....is this rate even feasable? Even in heads up it happened to me when I thought top pair was evne a really strong holding. Heck no, I catch the straight, he catches full house. Really frustrating, considering live I can play 5 hours, 30 hands/hour, and play for a month on end only seeing it maybe once.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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DubRod
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Straight
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Man must be the site has something against you.
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donkbee
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WELP
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Uhh ... you're complaining about running bad for one night? What's your sample size here?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Irisheyes
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4-of-a-Kind
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I lost 5k tonight. Sup?
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Pelion
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02-12-2007, 01:52 PM
Post subject: Re: [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Poker-Dot-Co
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4-of-a-Kind
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bef99hwk
I bet this site has given out over 10 full houses.
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What odds are you offering?
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Sprayed
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: GO BUCKS!
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It gets old after awhile when you hear that on-line poker is rigged over and over. Please read the stickies before you post and read these (these are just a few, there are many more posts just like these):
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...poker-1669.htm
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-50208.htm
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Sprayed
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: GO BUCKS!
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I think that the following relates to the OP. This guy sent a letter to PS complaining about his bad beats (he was serious).
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I am pretty upset.
I demand you guys change my luckswitch otherwise im never playing at this site ever again. Im pretty sure you get 100 emails like this every day but this is disgusting. Look over my hand history for the last 100 times i have had AA, KK, QQ, JJ. When i have AA someone has flopped a set on me without fail.
I spent 4 hours on a table and had 3buyins on the table. In the space of 5 mins i get AA twice and the same guy flops a set on me twice in a row. With JJ and 44 respectivly. You guys make alot of money from me.
Im a platinum player and go through around 15kvpp per month. Put it this way. Im holding this software responsible for my bad results. Im a winning player live and on many other pokersites and im continually getting screwed here.
If things dont get any better your loosing my business forever and im going to UB / Tilt where i can also get rakeback deals.
You have earnt far to much rake from me. Please start giving some back to me. I will continue this month and if things dont improve im gone. And if you happen to flick my luckswitch and i start winning money again... i wont tell anyone pokerstars is rigged.
LOL
- Andy
- The guy that pays for your TV commercials
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PS sent this letter back to him.
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Hello xxxxx,
Thank you for your recent email. I am sorry to hear of some of the bad beats
that you have been recently experiencing. However, I can assure you that our
shuffle is completely random, favouring or disfavouring no player over any
other. The computerized methods we use to shuffle the deck are more than
sufficient to ensure complete randomization of the cards, and complete
unpredictability of the cards to come. You can see the description of these
methods at:
http://www.pokerstars.com/security.html
In addition, we track all hands dealt daily to see if there is any
statistically significant variance.
In fact, we gave the source code to two independent auditors who reviewed
our shuffle algorithm and found it sound and random. You may read the
analyses of these auditors at:
http://www.pokerstars.com/rng_audit.html
We have dealt over 8,000,000,000 hands, and have freely given out real money
hand histories any time somebody has requested them. Not once has anybody
found any indication that our shuffle is not 100% random, and many who have
undertaken such studies have posted their findings to the Internet. You may
find just two of them here:
http://tinyurl.com/4lfeg
http://tinyurl.com/2nvav
If you have further questions about this, please don't hesitate to contact us.
Regards,
Lee B
PokerStars Support Team
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Xioustic
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Flush
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
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THE INTERNET IS RIGGED
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^ Worst advice possible, don't listen ^
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Sprayed
I think that the following relates to the OP. This guy sent a letter to PS complaining about his bad beats (he was serious).
Quote:
I am pretty upset.
I demand you guys change my luckswitch otherwise im never playing at this site ever again. Im pretty sure you get 100 emails like this every day but this is disgusting. Look over my hand history for the last 100 times i have had AA, KK, QQ, JJ. When i have AA someone has flopped a set on me without fail.
I spent 4 hours on a table and had 3buyins on the table. In the space of 5 mins i get AA twice and the same guy flops a set on me twice in a row. With JJ and 44 respectivly. You guys make alot of money from me.
Im a platinum player and go through around 15kvpp per month. Put it this way. Im holding this software responsible for my bad results. Im a winning player live and on many other pokersites and im continually getting screwed here.
If things dont get any better your loosing my business forever and im going to UB / Tilt where i can also get rakeback deals.
You have earnt far to much rake from me. Please start giving some back to me. I will continue this month and if things dont improve im gone. And if you happen to flick my luckswitch and i start winning money again... i wont tell anyone pokerstars is rigged.
LOL
- Andy
- The guy that pays for your TV commercials
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PS sent this letter back to him.
Quote:
Hello xxxxx,
Thank you for your recent email. I am sorry to hear of some of the bad beats
that you have been recently experiencing. However, I can assure you that our
shuffle is completely random, favouring or disfavouring no player over any
other. The computerized methods we use to shuffle the deck are more than
sufficient to ensure complete randomization of the cards, and complete
unpredictability of the cards to come. You can see the description of these
methods at:
http://www.pokerstars.com/security.html
In addition, we track all hands dealt daily to see if there is any
statistically significant variance.
In fact, we gave the source code to two independent auditors who reviewed
our shuffle algorithm and found it sound and random. You may read the
analyses of these auditors at:
http://www.pokerstars.com/rng_audit.html
We have dealt over 8,000,000,000 hands, and have freely given out real money
hand histories any time somebody has requested them. Not once has anybody
found any indication that our shuffle is not 100% random, and many who have
undertaken such studies have posted their findings to the Internet. You may
find just two of them here:
http://tinyurl.com/4lfeg
http://tinyurl.com/2nvav
If you have further questions about this, please don't hesitate to contact us.
Regards,
Lee B
PokerStars Support Team
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clearly he had the misfortune of runing into a ps employ that was cheating. 
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Tjorriemorrie
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02-13-2007, 03:59 PM
Post subject: Re: [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Poker-Dot-Co
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South Africa
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by bef99hwk
Tonight, I lost over 100 bucks when I hit a nut flush, they hit a full house...i get a straight, they hit full house....I bet this site has given out over 10 full houses. I multitable (2 tables) but only played about 3 hours....is this rate even feasable? Even in heads up it happened to me when I thought top pair was evne a really strong holding. Heck no, I catch the straight, he catches full house. Really frustrating, considering live I can play 5 hours, 30 hands/hour, and play for a month on end only seeing it maybe once.
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Sample size, sample size, sample size....
There is a possibility it can happen...it did.
Next hand has exactly the same probability it can happen...it did.
It will even out over a million hands. I don't think it's bad calls. Again, proper BR shouldn't make you upset or feel the site is rigged.
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"Poker is a game of people... It's not the hand I hold, it's the people that I play with." ~ Amarillo Slim
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Dublin
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ugh sprayed it gets reall old.
onlines rigged.
my gf mentioned it kinda like a question to me a few days ago. UUUUUGGGGGHGHHHHHH was my reply
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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bef99hwk
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Manhattan, KS
Posts: 107
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yeah sorry...I keep playing cause I can make a slow profit....just frustrates me when stuff like this happens....or like 3-4 paired flops in a row, 3 straight 3-suited flops...kinda irritating. But I am unlucky in live games too...gotten beat by plenty runner-runners on ppl trying to bluff me when i have best hand...amazing, you don't play a hand for 3 orbits and you suddenly raise and a person puts you on bluffing lol. I just hate catching runner runner cards, even if I am on the giving end. I've had plenty of times where I have done this and I feel bad. I like the money but I know I misread the hand and should have lost. If all poker players were respectable and admitted getting lucky that's all it takes. The guy who put a bad beat on me in our home game (who was supposedly good) said he totally misread it and was a really bad beat. I was steamed because if he thought about hands he beat he wouldn't have gone all in...but such is life.
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