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Vinland
Old 04-20-2009, 01:52 PM     Post subject: Pocket A's on scarey board.... #1 (permalink)  
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Villain was typical limp caller...played lots of pots but played them fairy weak...
Standard fold on river?

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Villain (MP2) ($2.91)
MP3 ($2.70)
CO ($2.96)
Button ($2.93)
SB ($0.98)
BB ($3.88)
Hero (UTG) ($3.13)
UTG+1 ($1.48)
MP1 ($0.97)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero bets $0.08, UTG+1 calls $0.08, 1 fold, Villain calls $0.08, 2 folds, Button calls $0.08, 1 fold, BB calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.41) 7, J, 9 (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.36, 1 fold, Villain calls $0.36, Button calls $0.36, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.49) 7 (3 players)
Hero bets $1, Villain calls $1, 1 fold

River: ($3.49) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $1.47 (All-In), Hero ?

Total pot: $3.49 | Rake: $0.15

He prob has me beat??
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Old 04-20-2009, 02:07 PM #2 (permalink)  

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I would of raised more pre-flop, I want to get them all-in preflop to avoid decisions like this and also to bring the post flop stack to pot ratio down.

But as played, I think I have to throw those AA away and fold, you said he plays alot of pots, and weakly. I can see him on a 9,10 trying to draw out on you and then he hits the FH on the river. Also any 7 or 9 beats you, and if this guy plays alot of pots, he could be on A7, A9. This is tough to call without more intel.
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Old 04-20-2009, 03:40 PM #3 (permalink)  
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As played, you should have bet river since you both only have $1.50 behind. It's really too late to stop here unless you're set on folding. With your reads, he looks like he has a strong hand, but you also look really weak on the river so he knows his flush is good. You've got 1.5:5 pot odds, so it only needs to be a bluff or a jack 1/5 of the time. Then again, if he really is weak, we expect a check behind with a jack or less, so I don't think calling is ever the right option despite the good odds. If you think he would call with a jack, or he's able to fold a flush, bet, if not c/f. Never c/c in this spot with an overpair.

What do you think his calling range PF is? would it include 97, J9 or J7? If it is that wide, I probably c/f turn, since I expect him to check behind most of the time. A small bet on turn would be hard to fold to because your nut flush outs, but the reverse implied odds make it easier. I don't think betting the turn is good because you might scare too many worse hands (jacks, flush draws) and only get better hands calling you.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:10 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah, you're pot committed towards the end, it really doesn't matter at this point and this looks like to me a tptk type scenario, when that second 7 came up I was waiting for the raise.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Id feel commited in this spot and call it off. Also, given action I agree on raising more pre, not so much to "avoid decisions later", but for value if they´re going to call anyway.
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:06 PM     Post subject: Re: Pocket A's on scarey board.... #6 (permalink)  
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He prob has me beat??
yea if he has you beat 51% of the time it's an easy fold
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:01 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd feel committed at this point. One of those hands I'm willing to get it all in on. If you're beat I take note of the hand and buy back in.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:25 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I think you've gotta just suck it up, you're committed. Also *don't* raise more preflop 4x is plenty.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:51 PM #9 (permalink)  
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The PFR is ok, at $2nl you can get away with a couple of BBs extra for value though. I've seen $0.20 openers get called by crap.

Flop: It's a super drawy board, you should be betting the whole pot here ($0.41 not $0.36) to hopefully slim the field down.
Turn: Death card. It's likely to have helped him and a bet here commits you, but as you're holding the Ad I'd lead 2/3 pot here and...
River: This runner runner was sponsored by satan. It's a check/call here - if you bet, the only hands that call will be hands that have you crushed. At least by checking you can allow a bluff in too.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:55 PM #10 (permalink)  
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unless table is zealously passive, i'm checking the flop and evaluating action behind me. if there's a bet and a raise you know that you need to proceed with caution, and if there's a bet, you c/r (effective play at these limits 'casue no one realizes that it's a show of strength) and they call then you have a much better idea of his range. as played villain has anything
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