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amir is cool
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04-21-2009, 02:39 AM
Post subject: Pocket aces facing significant resistance on the flop
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NY
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villain a 75/12/1.3 over 35 hands or so. he does start to get aggressive post-flop often but preflop he is passive as hell.
CO ($13.05)
Button ($24.20)
Hero (SB) ($13.55)
BB ($3)
UTG ($11.20)
MP ($14.80)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Button calls $1.20
Flop: ($3.50) 6 , K , 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.30, Button raises to $7, Hero ?
do you stack off here?
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minraises are serious business
your SPR is as high as four, you should stack off with the nuts only
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Outlaw
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04-21-2009, 03:30 AM
Post subject: Re: Pocket aces facing significant resistance on the flop
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,033
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by amir is cool
villain a 75/12/1.3 over 35 hands or so. he does start to get aggressive post-flop often but preflop he is passive as hell.
CO ($13.05)
Button ($24.20)
Hero (SB) ($13.55)
BB ($3)
UTG ($11.20)
MP ($14.80)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, Button calls $1.20
Flop: ($3.50) 6 , K , 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.30, Button raises to $7, Hero ?
do you stack off here? |
I shove faster than phil helmuth on speed
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flyingtriangle
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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I would not fold this unless I was sure this guy only raises on the flop with 2 pair or better. since you've only played 35 hands with him, there's no way you have that strong of a read yet. and since say he's been playing aggressively post flop so far, you should shove here 100% of the time, in my opinion.
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Ragnar4
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Full House
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Location: Billings, Montana
Posts: 1,284
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Bigger mistake to fold
iopq hit it on the head. SPR of ~4 means you should be willing to get it AI Post Flop with even the nittiest of nits.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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TLR
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I would shove it, I think you are ahead of his range, he can do that with FD or TPTK easily
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ArcadianRock
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2009
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I'm not going to be redundant and say what they said...
If they see you as uber aggressive and they have TPTK, use that to your advantage.
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sil693
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Full House
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Location: Birmingham, UK
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by amir is cool
do you stack off here?
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yarp. pokerstove is your friend sir.
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littleogre
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Originally Posted by iopq
minraises are serious business
your SPR is as high as four, you should stack off with the nuts only
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At low stakes a min raise usually means a big hand. Some dudes at 2p2 with a milli+ hand DB basically figured out that it usually means a str8 or better. Seeing as how a str8+ is not possible on that flop i'm not sure what they have.
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Robb
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Yeah, you're behind a good bit of the time here, but the pot is laying great odds. You've got plenty of equity even against most hands that have you beaten right now.
Seriously, think about all the big hands he could have, and start calculating your all-in equity against them. (Someone said pokerstove above - use it if you haven't yet.) If he range is 2 pair, huge SD/FD draws and/or big combo hands, you've still got like 40% equity. Sets are the only big problems for your hand, and his range is a lot wider than that.
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surviva316
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yep go ahead and push AI.
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amir is cool
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2009
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the kid ended up showing a flopped set after i shoved.
is there anything I actually did wrong here/anyway i could have known he had a set or was I just doomed from the start?
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Robb
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You have to bet $8.25 for a chance at winning $27, $14 of which is already in the pot (nearly $18 after you "call" his raise). You can't take the pot odds on the "call," because his line is saying "I'm gettin' all the chip in by the river." But your overall pot odds are almost 19 to 8 or about 2.33 to 1. You have to win this showdown less than 31% of the time for the shove over to be profitable, and there's enough in his range for AA to win this 3 out of 10 times it happens.
Don't get results oriented and focus on THIS hand. Make the correct decision regardless of the actual outcome of the hand, and you'll profit long term.
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