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03-23-2005, 01:42 PM
Post subject: Pocket 6's hitting trips vs. one 6 hitting trips on flop
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4-of-a-Kind
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This may seem like a dumb question, but the other day my brother in law complained about folding J6 when 66 came out on the flop in a tourny. Idiot. But it got me thinking. I always played pocket pairs hitting trips with much more confidence than having one card hit trips with 2 on the flop. Here is why:
1. People play Ax. The x could be the other 6.
2. The disguised trips gives you a betting advantage since nobody knows you have it.
3. Easier (not easy) for somebody to get a boat with a pair on the board.
Next time I get J6 (in the BB most likely) and 66K or 66A comes out, how should I play it in these two cases:
1. Somebody raises the pot before me. Reraise or call?
2. Nobody raises before me. Bet pot?
These seem like the same plays I would make with pocket 6's. So, is there a huge difference?
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It's not a huge difference, but here it is:
With a hidden set (pair in your hand, one on the board) You're more likely to get paid off because it's not as transparent. If You reraise someone with J6 on A66 board, you can be prettycertain of one of four things:
1)He's got an ace.
2) he's got that case 6
3)He's bluffing
Or worst case scenario
4) He's got pocket aces.
So you reraise into him. One of two things happens here. He puts you on the 6, and folds because he knows he can't beat it... or he reraises.... and you're probably screwed.
Thus a set is better than trips because of the concealed nature of it. You're more likely to get paid off.
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evman150
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Originally Posted by Fortune 500
It's not a huge difference, but here it is:
With a hidden set (pair in your hand, one on the board) You're more likely to get paid off because it's not as transparent. If You reraise someone with J6 on A66 board, you can be prettycertain of one of four things:
1)He's got an ace.
2) he's got that case 6
3)He's bluffing
Or worst case scenario
4) He's got pocket aces.
So you reraise into him. One of two things happens here. He puts you on the 6, and folds because he knows he can't beat it... or he reraises.... and you're probably screwed.
Thus a set is better than trips because of the concealed nature of it. You're more likely to get paid off.
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Worst case scenario is actually when he has A6. You have no outs against A6, except running cards if your kicker is higher than a six. Going up against AA at least the case six is still in the deck.
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Fortune 500
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good point
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dsaxton
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The difference is fairly strong. Primarily, I think, because of the visibility of a pair on the board. Players will not be prone to commit much to the pot without a set or full house when this is the case, whereas when you have a set with a pocket pair, you could get a great deal of action out of a player with only top pair or two pair.
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