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Old 07-31-2005, 10:49 PM     Post subject: PLEASE VERIFY ODDS #1 (permalink)  
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I believe when you hold Ax preflop. The odds of flopping a ace is 2.71:1 or about 27%. Can someone please verify this. Thank You
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:24 PM #2 (permalink)  
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When you hold Ax preflop you fold preflop.
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Old 08-01-2005, 12:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Nah, I can dominate with Ax in $1-2 nl becuase I know alot about position plus my post flop skills are great. All I wanted to know was the odds to flopping a ho card. I believe its about 27%
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Old 08-01-2005, 01:50 AM #4 (permalink)  
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The odds of flopping 1 of your two hole cards is about 30%, not 1 particular hole card.
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Old 08-01-2005, 02:41 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Well in theory the odds of flopping either or specifically would be around 15% correct? Since your goin to flop both of them the same amount of times .
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Old 08-01-2005, 02:51 AM #6 (permalink)  
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flopping EXACTLY one pair by pairing a hole card 26.939%

You don't have a 26.939/2 % chance of flopping the Ace though, but I'm not sure how to figure the exact amount.
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Old 08-01-2005, 04:55 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Well in theory the odds of flopping either or specifically would be around 15% correct? Since your goin to flop both of them the same amount of times .
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:16 AM #8 (permalink)  
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The odds of getting an ace on the flop are 1 - (47*46*45)/(50*49*48) = 17.3%.

The odds of getting an ace on the board (all 5 cards) are 1 - (47*46*45*44*43)/(50*49*48*47*46) = 26%.
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Old 08-01-2005, 08:44 AM     Post subject: calculation #9 (permalink)  

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I assume you're asking about seeing at least one Ace on the flop (you could theoretically hit four of a kind!), there are 3 Aces out there, and 50 unseen cards.

I think the calculation goes:
3/50 + (47/50 x 3/49) + (46/49 x 3/48) = 17.6% chance to pair your Ace on the flop

If you miss the flop:
3/47 + (44/47 x 3/46)= 12.5% to hit on the turn or river

If you miss the flop+turn:
3/46 = 6.5% to hit the river

It's different for exactly a pair of Aces, i.e. pair but not not TOK or FOK.

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flopping EXACTLY one pair by pairing a hole card 26.939%

You don't have a 26.939/2 % chance of flopping the Ace though, but I'm not sure how to figure the exact amount.
If the first figure is correct and it is referring to exactly one pair then you do have a 26.939/2 = 13.5% chance of getting exactly one pair of Aces. (Think about it, if you have exactly one pair on the board, half of the time it will be the Ace, the other half whatever the other card in your hand is, just like BILLABONG said).
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Old 08-01-2005, 09:16 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Ok so...........your sayin that the odds of me flopping ONE ACE when I hold ACE/ANYTHING in my hand preflop is 17% or the 13%? Sorry to make you clearify, but I would appreciate it
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I didn't do the 13% calculation myself, but if edudlive's stats are correct then your odds of flopping exactly one Ace will be about 13%. Your odds of flopping one or more Aces will be about 17%.
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Old 08-01-2005, 10:37 AM #12 (permalink)  
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The odds of getting exactly one ace on the flop is (3*3*47*46)/(50*49*48) = 16.5%.

The odds of getting exactly one ace on the flop and not getting two pair by also hitting your kicker or by the board pairing is (3*3*44*40)/(50*49*48) = 13.5%.
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Old 08-01-2005, 10:02 PM #13 (permalink)  
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I didn't do the 13% calculation myself, but if edudlive's stats are correct then your odds of flopping exactly one Ace will be about 13%. Your odds of flopping one or more Aces will be about 17%.
I took it from the stickey
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Old 08-02-2005, 01:47 AM #14 (permalink)  

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I see, that stat is for hitting exactly one pair, not at least one pair, krimson's post above shows what the difference is for odds of hitting one Ace.
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