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Old 09-29-2006, 02:08 PM     Post subject: Please post some examples of... #1 (permalink)  
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when you have TPTK or TPGK and you get raised/check raised on the flop and how you play it. And discuss why you played it that way.
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Old 09-29-2006, 04:31 PM #2 (permalink)  
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things to consider:
the more people that saw the flop, the more likely someone has a stronger hand. raises show alot of strength in multiway pots but not so much when headsup.

the exact pair you have makes a difference. TPTK with AK on Axx board is different from A9 on a 987 board.

what people think of you...do you have a good or bad image? if you have been playing tight and someone raises you (and you think they have some idea that you are tight) then use caution.
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:30 PM #3 (permalink)  
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It's awfully dependent on

(1) Number of players involved as gabe indicated
(2) Board texture
(3) Read on player(s) (raise-calling range, how they play monster hands vs. draws vs. probe-minreraises, showdowns)
(4) your position
(5) your image at the table (depending on stakes anyway)
(6) Stack sizes
(7) Stakes
(8) Intuition

Probably a few other things I'm missing.

But it's hard to address as a general problem...I will say that at my stakes, most players will use a minreraise to indicate strength...2 pair+. A minority will use it for a draw - but that tends to happen mostly in small unraised (preflop) pots.
So depending on a lot of factors (my chances to improve to a hand that might beat them, reads, other players involved and their action, gut feel) I tend to call the first minreraise and try to put them on a hand based on the board texture and my read on the player. If I am oop, I will probably 50/50 bet vs. check the turn, assuming it's a blank. Bet vs. not has a lot to do with what I put them on (which comes from reads, experience, and board texture).
Sometimes I overthink things in these situations, and lose value ... but I don't tend to pay off all that many better hands either, so it's probably a wash as far as that goes.
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