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viroid
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12-31-2011, 08:15 PM
Post subject: Please help/critique this home game structure
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High Card
Join Date: Feb 2007
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Im having issues with the poker league I am in. 10 of my friends and I started this poker league. Due to everyone being very busy we can only play 1 day per month. We play 2 $15 games every month on the same day. There is also a $15 league fee every month that pays out the top 6 at the end of the year. Points are awarded after every game to determine who the top 6 are:
1st- 16 pts 5th- 8 pts 9th- 3 pts
2nd-14 pts 6th- 6 pts 10th- 3 pts
3rd-12 pts 7th- 5 pts
4th- 10 pts 8th- 4 pts
Thats all fine and dandy. My issue is the blind structure. Blinds are 12 minutes. Here is the structure:
Starting stack is $2500
12 minute blinds
50-100
100-200
200-400
*250-500
300-600
400-800
500-1000
750-1500
1000-2000
*"We got rid of the 25-50 blind and added 250-500. This will speed up the action early on."
This is a very hard game to win. The blinds increase so fast that the games seem like a complete crap shoot. How would you guys play this type of game? Anyone have any recommendations?
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celtic123
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Full House
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Get aggressive from the off if The pot odds are good.
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JKDS
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Starting stack? 12minutes is also hyper fast even with very generous stack sizes. Id play it similarly to how id play a hyper turbo online. 12minutes might not even be a single orbit at slower games O.O Also if your state side, be sure you know any legal caveats that might be relevant to your state and hosting games.
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viroid
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12-31-2011, 08:24 PM
Post subject: onayour Jan
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High Card
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starting stack is 2500
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viroid
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High Card
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JKDS
Starting stack? 12minutes is also hyper fast even with very generous stack sizes. Id play it similarly to how id play a hyper turbo online. 12minutes might not even be a single orbit at slower games O.O Also if your state side, be sure you know any legal caveats that might be relevant to your state and hosting games.
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Yes the problem is we are all friends so there is a lot of BSing/convo during the game which wastes a lot of time. I would say the avg orbit takes 15-20 minutes.
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StarGrinder
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Its not like it's a substantial amount of money plus it's an excuse to hang out with friends and play some cards once a month. It's inexspensive entertainment however with that being said, if these guys weren't buddies of mine I certainly wouldnt be playing.
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JKDS
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Full House
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Yikes! Uhm...well...its still fun with friends! I wouldnt play it for poker though 
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Moradis
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3-of-a-Kind
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This blind structure is very tough for 12 minutes imo as it's only 25 blinds. We have a similar game with about 8 guys every Friday. We start 10/20, then 20/40 and then go 50/100. The rest is virtually your structure. It gives you time to settle in for 20 mins and our games finishes usually within 1 to 1.5 hours. Be ultra aggressive stealing blinds when you have anything decent in your hand  Enjoy
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OngBonga
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Full House
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I'd up it to 10k stacks, if that's not an option then I'd be playing loose aggressive poker and hope for the best. Basically it's a crapshoot because after 1 level the average is barely above 10 big blinds, everyone is short stack. Get more chips on the table and you might see some good poker, otherwise just accept it for the gamble it is and play fast and loose bingo poker.
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gingerwizard
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Become epic at push/fold poker and exploit my favourite tendency of live home game tournament fish: "They play too many hands when the blinds are low and too few when the blinds go up".
Seriously, in my game 90% of the field would allow themselves to be blinded away. I've seen people with 1.5 BBs in their BB fold for their last 0.5BB! This from players who will call with T8o for a raise in the early rounds.
What you have to learn is how to play proper push/fold poker based on ICM, then enjoy the wins as players make ridiculous folds against you near the bubble. I reccommend the SNG forum and the digest in there to get you started.
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viroid
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High Card
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Push/fold it is.
Lots of good advice, guys. thank you.
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ColdDecked
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Straight
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If you want it not to be such a big crapshoot, you could always make the starting stack larger or take a zero off each of your blind levels, so that there would be more play involved. The first few level you may be able to minraise to steal if they're tight, but after that it's really shove or fold. Unlikely minraising would be any good though since I assume that everybody is ultra loose.
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viroid
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High Card
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ColdDecked
If you want it not to be such a big crapshoot, you could always make the starting stack larger or take a zero off each of your blind levels, so that there would be more play involved. The first few level you may be able to minraise to steal if they're tight, but after that it's really shove or fold. Unlikely minraising would be any good though since I assume that everybody is ultra loose.
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The problem is that way it takes too long. we need to play 2 games per night and have them last 1.5hrs each.
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Icanhastreebet
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Full House
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: In the big blind, cold calling your opens, making you tilt.
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25-50
50-100
75-150
100-200
200-400
300-600
400-800
600-1200
1000-2000
This allows a little more play early on but you still finish up just as quickly. I don't understand why getting stacks so shallow so super early is important as it does not really speed the game up but does make it more of a crapshoot. I would probably avoid push/fold for as long as possible(sub 10bbs) by limping(playables)/mring(junk/call it off). Push/fold DOES make it a crapshoot BUT if people will not be abusing the fuck out of your limps then just play to see flops etc.
mring whenever I come in if stacks are deeper then 20-25ish bb and always mring >15ish bb if people are not 3bing you.
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