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SoboQ4
Old 10-19-2008, 03:57 AM     Post subject: playing Second Pair #1 (permalink)  

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You table image is that you bluff too much... because of repeated continuation bets... Folks are apt to call you unless the board flops an A or K... s... so how do you play something like J10s after you opened with a raise to 3x the big blind and if the flop falls Q 10 4 rainbow. .

Say you are in and you got 1 caller and the BB call...

Or say were on the button and got 1 caller the BB...

... 1st off just asking this question lead me to think about raising from early position with something like J10s but ignore that for the moment... or don't... I have alot to learn...

my thought is that if I bet and get called... I think I have to c/f on the turn?

Which if I am fairly certain I am going to get called anyways shouldn't I just check the flop... and If I do that how do I play the hand... check / fold /raise ? is there even a consideration of check/call?

I ask because this is one area of my game that I am always at a loss of what to do... and in short handed games and home game tourneys this situation seams to get me in alot of trouble...

That or you play something like K 7 as the BB and against a couple limpers... and the board falls 10 7 3... or something like that...

I think understanding this situation more will probably cause me to rethink many other aspects of how I play...
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:03 AM #2 (permalink)  
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it depends on what your opponent's range is
sometimes I'll bet my second pair, sometimes I won't
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:44 AM     Post subject: Re: playing Second Pair #3 (permalink)  
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... 1st off just asking this question lead me to think about raising from early position with something like J10s but ignore that for the moment... or don't... I have alot to learn...
Fold preflop. Exactly because flopping a J or T with JTs can be such a problem to play.

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That or you play something like K 7 as the BB and against a couple limpers... and the board falls 10 7 3... or something like that...
This is completely different. When it's 3 trash hands against each other, you can often bet the 7, especially with an overcard that probably makes you a guaranteed winner if it hits.

If you open JTs UTG for a raise, the only hands that are going to jump in the pot will be likely to either be way ahead of you or have you dominated.

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I think understanding this situation more will probably cause me to rethink many other aspects of how I play...
Good luck. Welcome to FTR. Hope your rethinking goes well. Be sure to read the Beginner's Digest articles.
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