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Old 12-04-2007, 03:51 AM     Post subject: Playing Pocket Jacks on a low suited flop #1 (permalink)  
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Villain's stats are 44.44 / 11.11.

Going all in on this flop is a mistake here. A normal raise should have been to say $6 or $8, after which is there any getting away from this hand?

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SB ($22.50)
BB ($3.95)
UTG ($4.40)
UTG+1 ($25.67)
UTG+2 ($5.80)
MP1 ($46.30)
MP2 ($20.35)
Hero ($24.38)
CO ($6.02)
Button =(Villain) ($12.09)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with , .
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, Button =(Villain) calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($2.35) , , (3 players)
Hero bets $1, Villain raises to $2, Hero calls $24.38 (All-In), Villain calls $12.09 (All-In).

Turn: ($30.53) (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($30.53) (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $30.53


Results:
Hero has Jh Js (flush, king high).
Villain has As Ac (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Villain wins $30.53. Hero wins $11.29.
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:56 AM #2 (permalink)  

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I think the opponent was just lucky you had a premium hand and nice flop. From the stats you gave they sound like a weak player.

You're bet was weak but against a weak opponent it usually works. The raise from your opponent should have been a good indicator that maybe it's a good time to keep the pot small or fold and wait for a situation where you can control the betting.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:14 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I think I definitely should have played small ball poker here, not long ball. The only way I get a caller here is against a set, an A/K/Q of spades or a made flush. My jacks are just too weak against this board.

I think I should be trying to keep the pot small?
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:17 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 I think you answered your own question. An overbet like this is only getting a call from a better hand. Money is made from mistakes postflop, so don't be afraid to play some poker and outplay your opponents.


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Old 12-05-2007, 02:55 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:11 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think if you make a standard flop bet your opps actions will be less likely to be viewed by you as a bluff. you dont really want to encourage a call here, so a regular size flop bet is warranted.

it will also help you those times you do want to play a big pot if your standard bet after a raise is more than 1/2 the pot, as it will be less obvious when you have a hand and are trying to build a pot (assuming your opponents are paying attention).
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