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maxtheman

09-01-2006, 01:36 AM Post subject: Playing with the nuts?? All in - or Check it

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What do you do?
You : Ac - Kc
Flop: 10c-Jc-Qh

You go all in...or wait it out? Just happened to me...i went all in want nobody called..pissed me off

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MiJ

09-01-2006, 02:20 AM

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depends..how many players on the flop, who am i playing against , did i raise , position...etc.etc...i probably dont go all in on the flop tho..

TerryToma

09-01-2006, 05:49 AM

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dont need to go allin on the flop, but definitely bet it. Someone likely has 2 pair, or at least a piece of the flop. get AI by the river though if you still holding the nutz. Plus we need mroe information than u provided.

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flyingPenguin

09-01-2006, 10:58 AM

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Bet 2/3 pot on flop. Bet 2/3 pot on turn. Push river.

The only likely way for you to lose this is if the board pairs and someone hits a boat, so you can probably slow play if you want to. I'm betting to build a pot though.

If you just push the flop nobody without 2 pair or better will call. If you just check you won't get the pot big enough to push by the river.

Pelion

09-01-2006, 11:59 AM

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or flush

I make a standard cbet here. 2pair/set will raise me either here or on the turn and then it will be pretty easy to get it allin.

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Ash256

09-01-2006, 01:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelion

or flush

He's got the 2nd nut flush draw.

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bantam222

09-01-2006, 09:34 PM

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He has the nut flush draw, actually a gut shot royal.

The only way he can lose to a flush is runner runner heart and someone holding 2 hearts

djzcko

09-01-2006, 09:58 PM

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As most everybody said: NEITHER. Make a bet that will be called by somebody trying to chase or if they have a marginal hand and are looking to suck out on you. In other words, 2/3 pot on flop, 2/3 pot on turn and slam river if they are still in the hand and the board has not paired. If the board pairs, proceed at your own risk and beware of the boat.

maxtheman

09-04-2006, 09:33 PM

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yea thats usually my plan..but it screws my mostly.

maxtheman

09-07-2006, 04:09 AM

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I had AA
He had KK

Flop: KKA

I went all in...then killed myself..hahah

TLR

09-07-2006, 04:59 AM

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TLR is an unknown quantity at this point

Its pretty much impossible to recommend a move without having at least the HH, and preferbly some reads.

The advice is different depending on position, number of people in the flop, preflop action, stack sizes etc...

martindcx1e

09-07-2006, 06:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxtheman

yea thats usually my plan..but it screws my mostly.

betting with the nuts usually screws you?

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TerryToma

09-07-2006, 06:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxtheman

yea thats usually my plan..but it screws my mostly.

betting with the nuts usually screws you?

it sure screwed me!

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
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Stack sizes:
TerryToma: $58.90
UTG+1: $182.45
MP1: $45.00
MP2: $65.55
MP3: $27.95
CO: $35.30
Button: $23.50
SB: $46.00
BB: $49.00

Pre-flop: (9 players) TerryToma is UTG with A

TerryToma calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises to $2, MP3 calls, 4 folds, TerryToma raises to $10.5, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds.

Flop: 6

($24.25, 2 players)
TerryToma bets $15, MP2 raises all-in $55.05, TerryToma calls all-in $33.4.
Uncalled bets: $6.65 returned to MP2.

Turn: 5

($121.05, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $121.05)

River: 9

($121.05, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $121.05)

Results:
Final pot: $121.05
MP2 shows KH AH
TerryToma shows AS AC

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martindcx1e

09-07-2006, 04:40 PM

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lol that's sickening. can you say "dominated"?

Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Anyone in the world can write anything they want about any subject. So you know you are getting the best possible information.

GatorJH

09-07-2006, 06:07 PM

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betting with the nuts didn't screw you, the poker gods did.

Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.

bode

09-07-2006, 06:27 PM

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bode is an unknown quantity at this point

i would fold that

Quote:

eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.

TerryToma

09-08-2006, 12:26 AM

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Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
10 players
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Stack sizes:
TerryToma: $51.60
UTG+1: $118.75
UTG+2: $28.55
MP1: $86.40
MP2: $48.50
MP3: $29.50
CO: $37.90
Button: $19.50
SB: $48.50
BB: $39.15

Pre-flop: (10 players) TerryToma is UTG with A

TerryToma raises to $2, 8 folds, BB raises to $6, TerryToma folds.
Uncalled bets: $4 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $4.25

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bode

09-08-2006, 12:29 AM

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^^^^ good read

Quote:

eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.

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