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himan
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06-21-2010, 09:24 AM
Post subject: Play to many different things
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High Card
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somewhere between Asia and America... I don't no exactly anymore...
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Hey, my biggest problem is that I play to many different things. I wrote for the first time everything down
I played the last week:
5NL- lost 0,91
Steps-From A to C
8G heads Up- Won it
NL heads up- Won it
8G 6 handed- ended up 6th(ITM=1st or 2nd)
NL-6,50 Turbo 2 times third(ITM=best 3)
NL-3,40 Turbo played 8 times, one time 1st, one time 2nd.(ITM=best 3)
NL-3,40 Turbo two tables 2nd, 11th and 12th(ITM=best 4)
NL-2,20 90 players: ended up 13th and 25th(ITM=best 12)
NL-2,20 Turbo 180 players 34th(ITM=best 18)
NL-4,10 KO 2nd and 4th
And then i did play FPP's
In the end I won 8 dollars after have played many, many different games. I think I'm playing to many different things, cause I like everything, but I don't win much with it. Does anybody had this and solved it?
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spoonitnow
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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If you want to make money, you need to pick one thing and stick to it until you're doing very well at it. From that point it's okay to learn a second game well, then a third, etc.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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NightGizmo
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
If you want to make money, you need to pick one thing and stick to it until you're doing very well at it. From that point it's okay to learn a second game well, then a third, etc.
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Do you consider full-ring to be a different game than 6max (speaking in terms of "learning to do it well")? They are obviously different games with different dynamics, but I'm curious what others think about playing both simultaneously.
I have started to finally post a solid win-rate at FR, but my 6max results are still stuck in the gutter. I feel like whatever leaks I have are amplified at 6max, which is good for finding mistakes -- but bad for morale and bankroll.
OP: you definitely need more focus, pick a game and stick with it for a while. If you go into cash games, I recommend starting with full ring. You can focus on the basics, like starting hand ranges, position, bet sizing, etc., and the differences in the opponents are much more obvious at FR if you use a HUD.
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himan
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High Card
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somewhere between Asia and America... I don't no exactly anymore...
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Have tried to install the trial of Holdem Manager but it didn't worked, I will try again for sure.
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HarleyGuy13
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Full House
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Really need to pic what appeals to you most and stick with it until you are really winning it hard. They are all so very different you'll waist a lot of money and times floundering around.
Are you using proper bankroll management? If you haven't read this then do so: Bankroll Management 101. Important to new players.
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spoonitnow
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Originally Posted by NightGizmo
Do you consider full-ring to be a different game than 6max (speaking in terms of "learning to do it well")?
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Not really, but it helps to stick to one game format because even though they're the same game, they still tend to play differently.
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Originally Posted by NightGizmo
I have started to finally post a solid win-rate at FR, but my 6max results are still stuck in the gutter.
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Your sample size is too small.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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NightGizmo
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Flush
Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Your sample size is too small.
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Yep, you're probably right. But I sure do hope my FR results are the more accurate of the two! I'll head back to studying the stickies now....
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himan
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High Card
Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by HarleyGuy13
Really need to pic what appeals to you most and stick with it until you are really winning it hard. They are all so very different you'll waist a lot of money and times floundering around.
Are you using proper bankroll management? If you haven't read this then do so:
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I know the bankroll idea already. I dubbled up with my 3rd deposit, but I think this is the problem to make the real money.
And I can't use URL and IMG tags...
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Penneywize
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by himan
I know the bankroll idea already. I dubbled up with my 3rd deposit, but I think this is the problem to make the real money.
And I can't use URL and IMG tags...
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I'd say start out playing 2NL and go from there. This is the least-variance approach to playing poker, and probably the most educational since you will get a greater volume of hands in as you progress.
Also, a 50$ deposit would be all you need to be properly rolled for this stake.
There's no shame in starting at 2NL. I did it after years of playing MTTs exclusively - and wish I just did this in the first place. Learn to play teh pokar for real!
Joining IRC would probably be beneficial as well.
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Penneywize
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Full House
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Originally Posted by himan
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I think you need 10 posts for this or something.
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krafty
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High Card
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Comparing full ring with short handed is like comparing golf with tennis. You gotta have balls for both games though.
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himan
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High Card
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Somewhere between Asia and America... I don't no exactly anymore...
Posts: 13
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Originally Posted by Penneywize
I'd say start out playing 2NL and go from there. This is the least-variance approach to playing poker, and probably the most educational since you will get a greater volume of hands in as you progress.
Also, a 50$ deposit would be all you need to be properly rolled for this stake.
There's no shame in starting at 2NL. I did it after years of playing MTTs exclusively - and wish I just did this in the first place. Learn to play teh pokar for real!
Joining IRC would probably be beneficial as well. |
I know I could play 2NL, but I have already dubbled up and I win in 5NL more, but I may want to cash out and start again with a low roll.
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Everything has an end, and a sausage even two!
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donkfish
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Join Date: May 2010
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Master one game while dipping your toe in the others. Like I spend 80% playing NLHE full ring, 10% NLHE 6max and 10% PLO, 2-7 Draw and Razz, which is like my "poker is fun" time instead the "man, this sure is a grind". I still try to play my A game, but it breaks up the monotony once in a while. Plus I think learning other games, albeit slowly, will help improve your NL game.
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