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Old 09-21-2005, 04:46 PM     Post subject: patience patience patience.................... arg #1 (permalink)  
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Don't know if this is posted in the right area or if it should be in MTT. Played in a MTT last night, got bumped out in 9th. Top 8 got paid, thus you can see my frustration. I don't know how to do hand history, so I will just try to explain it.

Blinds are 500/1000, I am in 3rd pos with A 10 hearts. I raised to 2000 (leaving me with about 5800 in chips), got 1 caller, the chip leader to my left. Flop comes A, Q, 10, with 2 diamonds and a club. I was wanting to protect against the flush, so I bet out 4000 with my two pair. He raise me all in, which I called, and then turned over K J, straight. Should I have played this differently. Should I have not even played this hand.? Let me have it, tell me how I should have played this.

I'm sorry its prolly hard to read, but thanks.





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Old 09-21-2005, 04:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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With only 7-8 x BB you are well into push or fold territory. Either would have been OK. A minimal raise invites others to take a look at the flop. You are too far out of position and have too few chips to be trying plays like this one.

Just realised, you are right on the bubble. AI becomes a better move here since you still have some folding equity - it will be a lot less after the blinds have hit you. Most people will not look you upwhen you push right on the bubble .
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Old 09-21-2005, 05:26 PM #3 (permalink)  
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min raise is bad, make it at least 3x. You don't want to encourage calls here.

Your stack is a tough spot - with 8k, pushing here usually only gets called by a better hand (unless by a stack much shorter than yours). But, pushing may fold a lot of small pairs,KQ/KJ, even AJ/AQ - hands that may call or go over the top if you just raise. Given that I lean to push fold.

As played, just move in on the flop. There's no reason to hang on to the < 2k you had left.

Folding here is an option. Even paying the blinds once more you still have a stack that you can push with. If the table has been loose and calling AIs of roughly this size with AJ/KQ/66 type hands, I may wait one more orbit. At a tighter table (which most are on the bubble) I like a push.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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you had like 7bb, thats push/fold

Don't play around with less than 10BB in a tourney, push so they'll give you the blinds
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:39 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yes i think you have to push the AT here.
As for post flop i think your only called if you push by the hand that beats you and to have be beaten by the flopped straight does suck big.
Still, the lesson to learn here i guess is either raise it properly or not at all, and i guess 'properly' was pushing.
STill i think your unlucky.
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