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AFchung

11-06-2008, 07:15 AM Post subject: Overpairs vs nitty opponents

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opponent is 14/4/.2 over about 100 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($2.59)
UTG+1 ($2.63)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($7.95)
MP3 ($6)
CO ($4.81)
Hero (Button) ($5)
SB ($6.10)
BB ($20.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J

, J

UTG calls $0.05, 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.23, BB calls $0.20, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.80) 7

, 4

, 5

(3 players)
SB bets $0.70, 1 fold, Hero????

Total pot: $0.80 | Rake: $0

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($2.49)
BB ($2.63)
UTG ($10)
UTG+1 ($7.90)
MP1 ($6)
MP2 ($4.81)
Hero (MP3) ($5.12)
CO ($6.65)
Button ($19.88)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q

, Q

UTG calls $0.05, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button calls $0.25, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.87) 2

, 4

, 9

(3 players)
MP2 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.37) 7

(3 players)
MP2 bets $0.90, Hero????

Total pot: $2.37 | Rake: $0.10

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Jovar

11-06-2008, 08:30 AM

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Hand two:
Turn bet size less than half the pot screams "my AK has not improved, please fold this time to my weak 2nd c-bet". I'd call here, probably not worrying about a reraise from button. He's most likely going to continue to call his spade flush draw since he is getting the odds for it, unless he was one of those who like to slowplay sets on the flop.

11-06-2008, 09:19 AM

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In hand 1 you could minraise to indicate to the other guy still in the pot that you like your hand. Also, your nit opponent will reraise a lot if he has a set on a flush board because nits are afraid of getting outdrawn. So you can only continue if the nit calls. This is probably not standard, but exploitive.

tom

11-06-2008, 07:04 PM

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hand 1: what is his pf 3bet %? I think if it's something small, I'll raise his flop bet for value and fold to a shove a lot. If he 3bets a higher amount (like 3% or more) I'd probably just flat call here and let him bet the turn before raising. Though I'm not sure a raise is ever wrong here.
@iopq, looks like your advice is if it was 3way at that point? BB folded so it's just hu. If thats not what you were saying nvm

hand 2: I raise this 100% on the flop with the button left to act behind me and a flush draw out . You put yourself in a weird situation on the turn. As played I'd still reraise the turn, maybe fold to a push, maybe call, depending on who pushed and what I thought of them

edit: and at 5NL I'm 3betting QQ pf pretty much all the time, but vs. nits it's not as bad I think.

and as always this is coming from a newb so take that for what its worth and wait for some conformation or something

11-06-2008, 07:26 PM

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lol, I didn't see UTG folded PF I thought he was still in the hand

I think it shouldn't condense one player folding to 1 fold, only 2+ imo, but that's a converter issue

in that case, I call once and be prepared to fold turn
good play? I do it all the time, wondering whether it's correct

mostly because I'm certain I'm beat when a nit wants to get money into the pot on every street vs. just one
so I'm hoping he doesn't pull the trigger the second time

DaddyDeez

11-07-2008, 02:43 PM

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Hand 1: raise flop, fold to a shove. if he calls, practice pot control and try to see a cheap showdown otherwise fold.

hand 2: 3 bet pre, u dont wanna be in a multiway por here imo esp with button left to act, on the flop i check how often villain DBF and then raise. as played turn isnt a bad card to raise

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Muzzard

11-07-2008, 04:04 PM

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Hand 1 probably raise/fold or even just call one street. I know 100 hands isn't a massive sample but .2 aggression is pretty timid and his lead is pretty strong. There are lots of turn cards which hurt us too.

Hand 2 I 3bet for value pre, it is also likely, if they are 'decent' that they are isoing the limp with a wider range than normal. As played I raise the flop.

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