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sykl1
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05-29-2005, 10:59 PM
Post subject: Outs question??
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im holding 9T (any suit, just using as a example) and the flop comes Jxx, i have 16 outs to hit my straight. if i get a Q on the turn then im down to to 8 outs correct? im 99% sure im right but just want a confirmation. Thanks!
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05-29-2005, 11:01 PM
Post subject: Re: Outs question??
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Originally Posted by sykl1
im holding 9T (any suit, just using as a example) and the flop comes Jxx, i have 16 outs to hit my straight. if i get a Q on the turn then im down to to 8 outs correct? im 99% sure im right but just want a confirmation. Thanks!
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On that flop, you need two running cards to catch your straight, so you actually have no outs at that moment.
On the turn, you do indeed have 8 outs to your straight.
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sykl1
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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great info, fast response, thanks. dont think ive read that anywhere before. this'll help tremendously
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a500lbgorilla
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05-29-2005, 11:20 PM
Post subject: Re: Outs question??
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Originally Posted by sykl1
im holding 9T (any suit, just using as a example) and the flop comes Jxx, i have 16 outs to hit my straight. if i get a Q on the turn then im down to to 8 outs correct? im 99% sure im right but just want a confirmation. Thanks!
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You don't have outs on the flop. An out is a card that can hit that will give you the best hand (By your best guess). So if your opponent has AJ, you have no outs on the flop. If the turn is a Q, you know have 8 outs and one chance to hit them.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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05-30-2005, 12:26 PM
Post subject: Re: Outs question??
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Originally Posted by sykl1
great info, fast response, thanks. dont think ive read that anywhere before. this'll help tremendously
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You're welcome!
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Greedo017
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so, this should help you realize how low the chance of a runner runner straight happening are.
there are 8 cards that could come that would give you then 8 outs on the river, and 8 cards that could come that would give you 4 outs on the river.
8/47 on the turn * 8/46 on the river = 2.9%
8/47 on the turn * 4/46 on the river = 1.5%
So the odds of a backdoor straight like this coming through is 4.4%.
This is actually higher than i read on a website, I read you have a 1 in 38 chance, or 2.6%, where'd I go wrong?
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