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Ouch... did I play this AA right, or did I get stupid?

  
 
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Quillspirit
Old 10-14-2005, 09:37 PM     Post subject: Ouch... did I play this AA right, or did I get stupid? #1 (permalink)  
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JackTheAce posts the large blind 0.10
shmit posts the small blind 0.05

shmit: --, --
JackTheAce: --, --
kobrzak: --, --
Annmary: --, --
RAGGIE: --, --
JmhKmh: --, --
Quill420: ,
BgZ: --, --

Pre-flop:

kobrzak: Raise 0.20
Annmary: Fold
RAGGIE: Fold
JmhKmh: Fold
Quill420: Raise 0.40
BgZ: Fold
shmit: Call 0.40
JackTheAce: Call 0.40
kobrzak: Call 0.40

Flop (Board: , , :Kh: )

shmit: All in
JackTheAce: Call 1.20
kobrzak: Call 1.20
Quill420: Raise 3.00
JackTheAce: Call 3.00
kobrzak: Call 3.00

Turn (Board: , , , )

JackTheAce: Check
kobrzak: Check
Quill420: Check

(I probably should have bet here!)

River (Board: , , , , )

JackTheAce: Bet 4.80
kobrzak: Fold
Quill420: All in

Showdown:

JackTheAce shows: 10s, Kc (two pair, Kings and Tens)
Quill420 shows: Ah, Ad (a pair of Aces)

Sidepot 2:
JackTheAce wins the pot of 11.85 with two pair, Kings and Tens

shmit shows: 5h, 6h (high card, King)

Mainpot:
JackTheAce wins the pot of 6.40 with two pair, Kings and Tens


(On the bleeping river!)

I was probably stupid for not seeing the possible straight, and ignored the chance somebody had trips on me. I never win with rockets anyway. - I call his river bet, because I thought he may have been trying to buy the pot. Doh!
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:49 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Bet more pre-lop. At least 5x, more like 6x.

Push the turn.
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:55 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Bet more preflop, on the flop, and on the turn. U need to narrow down the field on all of those


 
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Old 10-14-2005, 10:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Thanks for the input.

Btw - Mr. Villan was also the chip leader ( 8 x my stack), I don't think any bet I could make could have a chance of scaring him off.
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Old 10-15-2005, 01:14 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Your not trying to scare him off, your trying to get your money in while you have the best hand, before he hits his 2pair, not after.
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Old 10-15-2005, 03:13 PM #6 (permalink)  
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good point
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Old 10-18-2005, 02:04 PM #7 (permalink)  

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i would have bet more preflop too, the only problem is, he had top pair on board. So if you bet the turn hard, I bet he would have called, and you'd have been more commited to play the river or just caught a loss.
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Old 10-18-2005, 06:43 PM #8 (permalink)  
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"i would have bet more preflop too, the only problem is, he had top pair on board. So if you bet the turn hard, I bet he would have called, and you'd have been more commited to play the river"

this is bad?
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Old 10-18-2005, 11:30 PM #9 (permalink)  
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In all seriousness I don't think I've ever seen a turn that says "bet me hard" written all over it more than this one.
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Old 10-21-2005, 06:25 AM #10 (permalink)  
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He caught his kicker, can't do much about that, but by not betting the turn you gave him the chance to pick up that 2-pair for free rather than making him pay for it. If he called such a turn bet, then it's just a bit of bad luck, but sicne you gave him that last card for free, suck-outs like that are going to happen a lot more often.
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Old 10-21-2005, 03:38 PM #11 (permalink)  
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As the others said, you were way to passive on the first 3 streets. That said, the river call is fine ... many hands you beat will make that bet especially since the turn checked around. The pot is very large ... you are getting about 3.5:1 on your bet. The place to push your edge harder was the flop ... this was a good flop for you ... 2-pair very unlikely, no straights, and you have the heart Ace for a redraw if anyone makes the flush on the turn. You just can't worry about sets very much.
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Old 10-21-2005, 04:51 PM #12 (permalink)  
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reraise more preflop, you trying to isolate but not kill off the action.
bet the flop, your repping the king but you have better (id guess youd call the pusher who is prob on the draw) id cold call here then push the turn or push here if someone reraises behind you.
the hand really shouldnt get to the river unless opp has called you when you push in which case you are unlucky. imo here i think opp holding top pair would call your push anyway so your were going to get a bad beat, but get your cash all in while it seems your ahead. You cant really complain after that.
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