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Aplomado
Old 08-15-2005, 06:12 AM     Post subject: ouch #1 (permalink)  
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Started playing poker for money a few weeks ago and it's been profitable, I only play low end tables cuz I don't trust my skills yet.

On to tonight. Well I started with pocket fours. Three other guys start with a decent bet and I have position on them. The flop is 6 4 6. I'm pretty happy. The third guy bets $3, which makes me even happier. I raise it to $6 and he calls. (rest fold) I feel like I'm going to make a big score. The turn is a 5. I feel like this hand is mine and I'm already enjoying the big score I've certainly won. I check because I want to pretend like I may have been bluffing so I have a better chance of getting him to go all in. After all how could the river possibly hurt me at this point? He checks too. The river card: 6. Three sixes on the board. My trip fours have become a pair. I suppose I should've known a higher pocket pair, which he is likely to have, would have finished me. But I suppose in my shock I followed through with my plan and bet it all. Well he's got pocket 10s.

I guess the temptation is to always want to be able to say "i've learned something" after getting hammered, but is it just being unlucky or is it always a good idea to make him bet when you have him beat? I feel like I was right to slow play in this situation but man after that i don't know.
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:00 PM     Post subject: Re: ouch #2 (permalink)  
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but is it just being unlucky or is it always a good idea to make him bet when you have him beat? I feel like I was right to slow play in this situation but man after that i don't know.
Only slowplay anything if you trust yourself enough to let the hand go when you are beat.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:31 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd want to see stack sizes before I comment for sure on whether it's a good slow play or not. As you said the 6 is an AWFUL card and you can't call a bet at that point.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:33 PM     Post subject: Re: ouch #4 (permalink)  
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Started playing poker for money a few weeks ago and it's been profitable, I only play low end tables cuz I don't trust my skills yet.

On to tonight. Well I started with pocket fours. Three other guys start with a decent bet and I have position on them. The flop is 6 4 6. I'm pretty happy. The third guy bets $3, which makes me even happier. I raise it to $6 and he calls. (rest fold) I feel like I'm going to make a big score. The turn is a 5. I feel like this hand is mine and I'm already enjoying the big score I've certainly won. I check because I want to pretend like I may have been bluffing so I have a better chance of getting him to go all in. After all how could the river possibly hurt me at this point? He checks too. The river card: 6. Three sixes on the board. My trip fours have become a pair. I suppose I should've known a higher pocket pair, which he is likely to have, would have finished me. But I suppose in my shock I followed through with my plan and bet it all. Well he's got pocket 10s.

I guess the temptation is to always want to be able to say "i've learned something" after getting hammered, but is it just being unlucky or is it always a good idea to make him bet when you have him beat? I feel like I was right to slow play in this situation but man after that i don't know.
Im really don't know why you were sure you were ahead on that flop. You have a set of 4s while someone else could have trip 6s. You could be drawing dead. Yes, it was raised PF but at these stakes (hell, at any stakes with LAgg players) someone could hold a 6. I think I would play that hand carefully..watching their betting to see if I am beat.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:41 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Dude he's got a FH on the flop. He's beat by quads only. Dude. Yikes.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:41 PM     Post subject: Re: ouch #6 (permalink)  
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Im really don't know why you were sure you were ahead on that flop. You have a set of 4s while someone else could have trip 6s. You could be drawing dead. Yes, it was raised PF but at these stakes (hell, at any stakes with LAgg players) someone could hold a 6. I think I would play that hand carefully..watching their betting to see if I am beat.
He beats a 6 on the flop. Full house 4's full of 6's.
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Old 08-15-2005, 04:46 PM     Post subject: Re: ouch #7 (permalink)  
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but is it just being unlucky or is it always a good idea to make him bet when you have him beat? I feel like I was right to slow play in this situation but man after that i don't know.
Only slowplay anything if you trust yourself enough to let the hand go when you are beat.
good advice, I like to think of myself as someone who can lay down a good hand when he's beat but I certainly didn't display that here. I guess the moral of the story is don't count your chickens before they've hatched and don't be counting the money you've won after any flop, no matter how good (well maybe a straight flush)
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:04 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Dude he's got a FH on the flop. He's beat by quads only. Dude. Yikes.
Well, he's beat by 64 too, but yea. Yikes.
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Old 08-15-2005, 05:54 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Dude he's got a FH on the flop. He's beat by quads only. Dude. Yikes.
Ah yes. My bad. It IS monday.
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