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Unibomber14
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06-14-2007, 01:52 AM
Post subject: One Liners!
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To all the online players out there, of all experience levels.
One sentence advice to beginners in this forum.
Here are a few thought starters:
Beginners- What have you been taught that has improved your game recently?
Advanced players- What experiences taught you something interesting about yourself and your play?
Experts- What timeless advice is important to you?
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"$80 million Submarine mansion. Think about it."
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Unibomber14
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I'll start:
Fold more preflop.
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"$80 million Submarine mansion. Think about it."
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SHAKE
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Flush
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Bet fold the turn.
Regarding NL-Dont stack off with one pair
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Ragnar4
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Full House
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There are some hands you can raise with, that you can't call a raise with!
KJs from late position is an example of such a hand.
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The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here? 
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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The only thing thats really made me learn anything special about my game is studying my game and talking with other players (especially andy-akb and biondino). A few one/few liners of my own that ive noticed at one point or another...
Treat one liners as guidelines, not as crutches. Use them until you find your feet and then move past them.
Varience is much bigger than beginners think it is and much smaller than regulars think it is. Every single time Ive been hit by varience and gone into a downswing Ive looked at my play and realised im playing badly (usually too weak/passive brought on by downswing fear).
Make some FTR instant messenger friends and talk through hands/sessions/life with them. It helps alot.
Worry about making the most out of your common situations. Spend more time figuring out when to fold / push with top pair and less time worrying about folding KK preflop or maximising value with quads.
Limping trash in the small blind is more expensive than it looks.
Position is MUCH more important than beginners think.
Small hands for small pots. Big hands for big pots.
Preflop you need at least a Good hand + Bad position OR a Weak hand + Good position. Dont play a hand without at least one of these.
Make sets get paid 
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Pelion
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4-of-a-Kind
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short stacks almost always suck
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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miracleriver
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Straight
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do not slowplay your monster hands. Bet them.
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Warpe
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Raise.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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exploit
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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Don't play drunk unless its with me
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Andy Holt
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Flush
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Give that ugly baby avatar credit; he's only shown down the last 7 hands.
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XTR1000
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think, then act
review your own game before you blame variance/donks
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigred
xtr stand for exotic tranny retards
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TLR
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Results don't matter
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taipan168
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Good thread.
Pay attention to stack sizes.
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biondino
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When players at 50NL/100NL raise, they usually have the goods
When players at 25NL raise, they almost always have the goods unless they're a maniac, which will become clear pretty quickly.
When players at micro-stakes raise, you can fold TP or worse because they have a hand EVERY time.
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flotu
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Flush
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Position is one of the important concepts in poker.
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Vrax
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Full House
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Don't play perfect poker. Spot the holes in someones strategy and open up. Win the battle of mistakes.
It's actually Sklansky's idea, but it really shows a big picture of NL poker game.
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"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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Load pokerstars -> player transfer -> bigred07 -> type in BR -> submit
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Silly String
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Pelion
Worry about making the most out of your common situations. Spend more time figuring out when to fold / push with top pair and less time worrying about folding KK preflop or maximising value with quads.
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QFFT!
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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silu73
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Full House
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Learning when to shove was one of the most important lessons in deep stack cash games for me.
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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Originally Posted by silu_nz
Learning when to shove was one of the most important lessons in deep stack cash games for me.
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That's what she said.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Random_Hero
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Full House
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Correct bankroll management is the most important thing in anyones poker "career".
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housefish17
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Discipline Discipline Discipline
Don't pay off others to attempt to catch your gutshot.
Also, TPTK is not as good of a hand as you think
Pay attention to board texture and other players betting patterns in relation to it
All 4 of those things have been the downfall of my game over my beginning stages (which i'm still in)
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mrhappy333
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Full House
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Never Misclick, it costs alot of $$
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3 3 3 I'm only half evil.
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Liam^
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Originally Posted by miracleriver
do not slowplay your monster hands. Bet them.
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QFT.
For me, and it may be obvious, but don't rely on instincts, or good or bad feelings when you're making a fold or call. Work out the maths, and that will start to replace your instincts.
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FlyingSaucy
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Live in the long run
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Pythonic
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Flush
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"It's okay to fold"
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Never bet on a white man in the heavyweight division!
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Alexos
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AK is the nutz
shove, profit
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Nine to five is how to survive - I ain't trying to survive / I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot //
Can offer RB deals on most sites, PM me.
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Unibomber14
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Sometimes, your two pair (or better) gets sucked out on, and that's okay.
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"$80 million Submarine mansion. Think about it."
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Unibomber14
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Flush
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(Tournaments)
The more big decisions you make, the more mistakes you'll make. THAT WORKS BOTH WAYS!!!
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"$80 million Submarine mansion. Think about it."
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Sprayed
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Originally Posted by Alexos
AK is the nutz
shove, profit
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Please be serious.
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AJinNorCal
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Tight/weak is the worst kind of poker to play.
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Pelion
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Sprayed
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Originally Posted by Alexos
AK is the nutz
shove, profit
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Please be serious. |
Yea this thread will lose all worth if people start making silly comments.
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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Anosmic
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Full House
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Know where to sit and when to leave.
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Jibalob
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Don't get "click happy"
ie, STOP..... THINK...... then click
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SHAKE
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Dont get mad, take those donks to value town. Its off to the right, about 20 min. from Ballaville!
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Anosmic
Know where to sit and when to leave.
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+1
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biondino
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Originally Posted by AJinNorCal
Tight/weak is the worst kind of poker to play.
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Uh no. Nowhere near. Tight/weak - as in folding too often with showdownable hands - is sub-optimal but will reduce variance and still earn you a decent amount at low limits when combined with appropriate aggression. Tight/passive, on the other hand, sucks because you play few hands and make little money on those you win while allowing worse hands to catch up. And loose/passive sucks because you bleed away lots of chips and end up showing down dangerous hands like 2nd pairs, low kickers, etc. while calling down proper aggression from savvy aggressive players.
Sorry, not much of a one-liner.
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Unibomber14
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Flush
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Originally Posted by biondino
Sorry, not much of a one-liner.
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I'm glad to know that though.
-- Trust your reads more, and you will learn to make better ones.
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"$80 million Submarine mansion. Think about it."
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Liam^
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3-of-a-Kind
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Beginners - You may think you're playing aggressively, but you're probably not
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