Originally Posted by spoonitnow

3. Use TrayIt to minimize PT to the system tray so you're less tempted to look at it every 5 seconds

Originally Posted by Robb

I don't get this post at all - I didn't know we had PT addicts.

Originally Posted by Hal

I've been tuning my game recently (dropping lots of hands from earlier position I was playing) and I find myself looking very often at my VPIP figures etc.. Do you think this is a bad thing to do while trying to "tighten up".

Admittedly I'm also heading to the cashier regularly which is prob more what you're referring to - and it's something I guess I should try preventing myself from doing.. but what are the *main* reasons you are aiming to not be results oriented..? I'm assuming it's a "If you're playing well it doesn't matter if you win or lose - and if you don't care you won't let emotions change your play". But what if these emotions (when you're winning) actually *help* you play more confidently?

Originally Posted by spoonitnow

Being results oriented and playing good poker don't mix well in any situation for any reason. If you take the time to look at results or the cashier while you're playing, that's taking your focus from the game which is always -EV.

Originally Posted by Robb

Ditto what Spoon said.

I'll add one thought. I have my HUD display some stats on me that I'm tracking (you can set it to show different stats for you than for the rest of the table) , but I don't often look at them until nearly 1k hands into a session. I wait for a lull and check them out.

But here's the problem. I've played the same style for 50k hands and know I open 17/15 or thereabouts in general. But after 100 hands at 3 different tables, it's not unusual to see as high as 30/25 on one table and 7/6 on another. You can be card dead or card rich. I glance at those numbers to see what my image at the table is, but I don't get wound up about them. Most of these numbers only make sense over 5k or 10k hands, minimum.

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Hi, my name is Jyms and I used to be a PT addict.

I solved this problem by playing over rolled and took the money out of the equation. When you need 40 BI"s to move up you won't look when you have 25. It's just not changing that fast. My move down is never in the middle of a session because I will always have 80 or so when I am done losing a session for the lower stake. Money is no longer a concern.

Originally Posted by Chopper

this should be the goal. and, i'll bet some of us have experienced it by accident. you forget to look at PT, or forget to turn on the timer. you go in after a session thinking, "i think i played meh," and find that you were really, really wrong in one direction or the other. thats the point.

robb, as for looking at your HUD and watching your stats on individual tables....i dont think thats a bad thing....being aware of possible image. but, i also have to think that some of these players, if paying attention, have many more than 45 hands on you, too. and its THEIR HUD they are using to formulate their image of you, not the 45 hands you've been there. it can be a double edged sword.