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thirteen

09-15-2005, 05:22 PM Post subject: Not sure I played this correctly...

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Hand Number: 224,015,481
Table Number: 2,862,757
Event Name: Table Cellini (#2026505)RNHB
Event Started: Wednesday September 14th 6:48:31 PM CDT 2005
Event Type: BugsysClub Real Money Ring Game
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Stakes: $0.01/$0.02 Blinds ($0.01 Minimum Chip)
Seat 1 : mxny starts with $0.91
Seat 2 : dickson starts with $0.86
Seat 3 : bluffcity starts with $1
Seat 5 : bbrendo224 starts with $0.44
Seat 6 : chirsa starts with $5.69
Seat 7 : thirteen starts with $3.64
Seat 8 : SLEEPYJOHN starts with $1.98
Seat 9 : parmstrong starts with $0.98
Seat 10 : yellownape starts with $0.71
Seat 5 : bbrendo224 has the dealer button
chirsa posts the small blind $0.01
thirteen posts the big blind $0.02
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
thirteen dealt down 8h 8d
SLEEPYJOHN folds
parmstrong folds
yellownape folds
dickson calls $0.02
bluffcity calls $0.02
bbrendo224 calls $0.02
chirsa calls $0.01
thirteen raises $0.09 to $0.11
dickson calls $0.09
bluffcity calls $0.09
bbrendo224 folds
Seat 4 : Payme80 starts with $5.66
chirsa calls $0.09
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ 3h 3s Jd ]
chirsa checks
thirteen bets $0.22
dickson calls $0.22
bluffcity folds
chirsa folds
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 6c ]
thirteen bets $3.31 and is all-in
dickson calls $0.53 and is all-in
thirteen takes back $2.78
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ 8c ]
thirteen cards were 8h 8d
dickson mucks hand
thirteen wins $1.87 with a full house, eights full of threes
mxny has left the table
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Wednesday September 14th 7:12:26 PM CDT 2005
Total Pot: $1.87 ($0.09 rake)
Board: [ 3h 3s Jd 6c 8c ]
Seat 1 : mxny did not bet
Seat 2 : dickson lost $0.86, mucked hand (cards were 9s 9d)
Seat 3 : bluffcity lost $0.11, folded on the flop
Seat 5 : bbrendo224 (button) lost $0.02, folded pre-flop
Seat 6 : chirsa (small blind) lost $0.11, folded on the flop
Seat 7 : thirteen (big blind) bet $0.86, won $1.87, net +$1.01, showed hand [
8h 8d ]
Seat 8 : SLEEPYJOHN did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 9 : parmstrong did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : yellownape did not bet, folded pre-flop

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CrunchyNuts

09-15-2005, 05:35 PM

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Check pre-flop, 88 doesn't hit overpair very often, so the chance you're wanting to continue post-flop is small (1:8 to hit set, basically).

You can go ahead and take a stab at the flop, but recognize that for what it is - a bluff. You don't have a good hand, and really don't have many outs to make a good hand...2 outs, in fact.

Turn play is about the worst you can do. He called you on the flop, which usually means he has something, and the turn card was neither a scare nor did it help you. Either fire off a second bluff or check/fold.

In general, at penny stakes, bluffing isn't worth it.

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biondino

09-16-2005, 09:51 AM

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It seems to me that you got caught between hving a decent made hand and trying to bluff, and that the combination of the two made it worth being the aggressor.

However, you made the wrongs move, really - I don't have a problem with the pre-flop raise followed by repping the flop (you'll want to rep with a more than 1/2-pot sized bet though), but once you get smoothcalled here you have to assume you're down. So when the turn doesn't help you, check-folding is the only real option.

It's all too easy to get caught up in being the aggressor and seeing it through to the end ("well, I decided pre-flop that this would be my tactics, and I also have second pair, so let's take it all the way"), but the fact that the guy you're trying to bully isn't getting phased - and also the fact that he is short-stacked and therefore will have better pot odds to call your all-in than if he had the same stack as you - is a very strong indication that he's almost certainly up, with top pair or a set of threes most likely.

The most important thing to take away from this hand is that you got lucky and will probably lose 90% of the time if the same circumstances aries again. There's a slight caveat here in that micro-limit players often take anything to showdown - but that should be an added incentive for you to be the person who milks them, rather than just being one of them.

Greedo017

09-16-2005, 08:55 PM

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no preflop raise with 8's, you're going to get yourself in trouble over and over again

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WhooFleuryScores

09-18-2005, 04:05 AM

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