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Old 02-07-2008, 02:14 PM     Post subject: Noncard Games To Improve Poker? #1 (permalink)  
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Are there any noncard games that can improve poker play, especially STT and MTT's? I recall Harrington being a backgammon and chess master before moving to poker.
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Old 02-07-2008, 03:39 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I would think that any game that involves strategy, moves and countermoves (of which chess and backgammon are included) would be good for general poker skills.
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Old 02-07-2008, 05:42 PM     Post subject: Re: Noncard Games To Improve Poker? #4 (permalink)  
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Are there any noncard games that can improve poker play, especially STT and MTT's?
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Actually I hear that really good chess players have a hard time if they switch to poker. Chess is all skill, there is no luck involved, no bad beats. You lose, you know you lost to a better player or played badly. Not so in poker as we all know. Drives chess players batty.

I'm sure chess doesn't hurt though, if anything it gets you thinking. And thinking moves ahead which is a nice skill to develop in poker.
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I find I can tune in my superior poker knowledge to pwn my 4 y.o. son playing a couple of his favorite games.

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- Hi-Ho Cherrio
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instead, grab your g/f and play a bit of strip poker.

but, truthfully, any "strategic game" will keep your mind alert. Risk, Backgammon, Dominoes, etc.

i also enjoy games of horseshoes, bocce, and washers to get my mind off the grind. anything and anywhere i can be competitive.
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instead, grab your g/f and play a bit of strip poker.
lol, was thinking this myself
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Backgammon - it's another game of mixed skill and chance.
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i wanted to mention that, but i didnt think anyone else played as a kid....well, kid, hell, i'd play today if i didnt spend all my time playing pokah.
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i also enjoy bocce,
What are you? A 75 year old italian?


but seriously, bocce is a sweet game, especially if you play in hilly terrain with water and trees. Or if you throw the little white ball 100 yards away.
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Actually I hear that really good chess players have a hard time if they switch to poker. Chess is all skill, there is no luck involved, no bad beats. You lose, you know you lost to a better player or played badly. Not so in poker as we all know. Drives chess players batty.

I'm sure chess doesn't hurt though, if anything it gets you thinking. And thinking moves ahead which is a nice skill to develop in poker.
I came from a fairly strong tournament chess background into poker. I don't think there was anything that was a part of me because of chess that bothered me in my transition to poker. I get what you're saying though.

While there definitely is an element of luck in tournament chess (which pairings you get, which colors you get, which opening repertoires of your opponents you match up well/bad against) there's no so much luck in an individual game of chess as in a poker game obviously.

I think that the biggest thing that I took from being a chess player that translated well over to poker were the work ethic required to make progress as a player and an individual. Granted, that sort of thing doesn't translate so well over for the casual player, so for the casual player I'd say the best thing you learn is to be patient and play with your head and not your hands.
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