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nice_aiau

12-01-2008, 02:30 PM Post subject: Nobbies 10NL Guide: Hands 0 to 1,000 homework

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First day of following Robb's Noobie guide,

Assignment: 3 trouble hands... well 2 actually, I haven't finished the first 1k hands so I'll post the third when I encounter it.

1) PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Villain running 15VP 7PFR hasn't got to showdown yet, passive Postflop. over 200ish hands

SB ($9.90)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($4.20)
UTG+1 ($11.70)
MP1 ($11.40)
MP2 ($9.60)
MP3 ($9.40)
CO ($1.55)
Button ($3.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, A

4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) Q

, 5

, K

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.70, MP3 raises to $2.90, 1 fold, Hero?

Whats his range? Would he do this with worse then QQ/QK/AA/55/kk

2) PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Villain 25VP PFR 8 1.7AF over 250hands

MP1 ($12.50)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($2.05)
Button ($16.65)
Hero (SB) ($23.25)
BB ($2.30)
UTG ($8.30)
UTG+1 ($13.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, Q

5 folds, Button raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.90, Button calls $0.70

Flop: ($3) 7

, J

, K

(3 players)
Hero bets $1.80, 1 fold, Button calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.60) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.70, Hero?

This spot sucked arse, thoughts about the flop continuation bet?
I Don't like the spot and I don't like my play either.

By betting the flop I'm essentially turning my hand into a bluff right? The only worse hand I'm getting value from is a flush draw, and by checking the turn...sigh.

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Monty3038

12-01-2008, 03:59 PM

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Disclaimer: I'm a 10NL player who is not overly profitable. Take my advice at face value, pros here will likely correct my mistakes.

Hand 1: I re-raise pre-flop... if he then calls or re-raises back you can narrow his range signifigantly. As played, QQ or KK is definately in his range, so with the large re-raise I give him credit for it and fold... might be a leak but that's my play.

Hand 2: Ok, so you raise, he calls, other guy folds to aggression. there are flush possiblities on the board, also sets are in play... he flat called a little over 1/2 pot on the flop... hmm... then leads out on the turn... without more info you may want to add in the straight draws... so he could be drawing a couple of ways... or he could have hit. I think leading out on the turn would be better, but as played I think I'm calling this. then depending on river deciding where to go from there...

Sasquach991

12-01-2008, 08:58 PM

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Hand 1: AKd is most definitely in his range.

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jyms

12-01-2008, 10:56 PM

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Hand 1: raise pre. Don't play AK multiway out of position unless you have too. As for his range, he would do this with tons of hands becaue you under repped your hand and called preflop. If you had JJ+ AK you would have raised pre, so he thinks his hand is good.

Hand 2: Don't bet the flop. Any K is calling and anything scared of the K is folding. What's the point. Read gabes S&G article "KK on an A high flop"

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HarleyGuy13

12-02-2008, 02:12 AM

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First I'll say I to am one who you need not take advice from but what the hell I'll throw it out there anyhow!

H1) Raise it 2.5-3x pre and evaluate after the flop if he calls.
H2) I like your raise but don't think I'm betting after he calls, probably gonna C/F.

Now with that said I'm looking forward to following your progress. But god please change that avatar..LOL

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nice_aiau

12-02-2008, 05:02 AM

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3) PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Villain 45/2/1.6 over 50ish hands.

BB ($8.80)
UTG ($4.15)
Hero (UTG+1) ($10)
MP1 ($9.90)
MP2 ($3.65)
CO ($24.90)
Button ($7.95)
SB ($1.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K

, K

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 5 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 4

, 7

, 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.05) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.35, BB calls $1.35

River: ($4.75) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $6.45 (All-In), Hero ??

Monty3038

12-02-2008, 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nice_aiau

, K

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 5 folds, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.85) 4

, 7

, 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.05) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.35, BB calls $1.35

River: ($4.75) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB raises to $6.45 (All-In), Hero ??

Well based on villian's stats, he appears to be a calling station that gets a little aggressive when he hits... my thought is you are beat... he hit his straight. It may be a leak in my game, but when faced with this situatuation, I'm betting pot on turn, or even higher, 3/4 of his stack depending on whether he calls that type of bet... he is in the hand pretty well... bad card on the river... as played I think it is tough to get away from, but I'm folding it.

gingerwizard

12-02-2008, 12:30 PM

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pot the turn, shove the river.

As played you can't fold with the odds. If he has 58 or two raggy pair, make sure you sit with him often.

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HarleyGuy13

12-03-2008, 01:23 AM

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As played I'd like to think I would fold but you've got half your stack out there. I do think I would have played it a little more aggressive after he called your bet on the flop. I think I would have atleast put a PSB out there and then if he called that I would have checked behind him on the river.

nice_aiau

12-03-2008, 01:26 AM

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Hand 1: I folded. My mistake was not raising preflop as you've all said. Also been out of position for the rest of the hand should push me towards raising more.
On the flop since I could be betting any king there, he'd think any king with a decent kicker was good also. so I proberbly should have called? But then I'm going to be out of position for the rest of the hand, where he could bet multiple streets. note:Raise pf

hand 2) I called the turn bet, and the river completed the diamond flush, Generally It was a really shit hand. qq on K-high board multiway *shakes head* like jyms said I'm not making any better hands fold.

hand 3) The guy had 55s, I tanked for ages about the call, but like gingerwizard said the odds were to good. I'm definetly going to follow the PSB on the turn in a drawy board... charge those draws!

Thanks for your responses guys, HW 1000-2000 will be up soonish.

daven

12-03-2008, 05:06 AM

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i suggest adding "fold to cbet" to your HUD stats.

hand 1: 3-bet pre.
hand 2: check-fold turn is fine. Cbet flop depends on villain, against this guy it's ok - but more reads make it better/worse.
hand 3: as played you have to call, $3.45 to win $17.60 - how often do you have to be ahead here? his play makes no sense if you're behind - but how often do 45-2 types make sense. Bet turn harder to charge out draws.

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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nice_aiau

12-03-2008, 05:11 AM

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I don't have fold to C-bet on my hud but I've got raise cbet and Call cbet, I ran into a few people who like raising cbets more then calling and/or folding them.
Someone else somewhere here suggested using those two stats instead of the just call cbet.

daven

12-03-2008, 05:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nice_aiau

Good idea on the cbet reaction stats - I may do this as well. This info adds to the information on which you based your decisions. Include this in the hands you post where relevant

don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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badgers

12-03-2008, 02:14 PM

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1 - def squeeze pre, as played fold. Being oop sucks here.

2 - what jyms said

3 - do what gingerwizard said.

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kettleofish

12-03-2008, 02:49 PM

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LOL Nobbie

That's all I came in here to say. GL with the grindage

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