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Old 08-01-2006, 10:25 PM     Post subject: Newbie question for the mathmaticaly inclined #1 (permalink)  

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I know im new but I cant seem to find this eny where else. My question is. assuming your all all in preflop and you all turn over your cards (tournament style). What is the percentage that AcKs will win Vs. 9h9d and 3h3d? The best I could come up with dosnt take into consideration the flush posiblities and the straight posibilities. So I came up with 27.885% or about 2.7 to 1. If eny of you can come up with the answer I would realy apricate it.

The reason im wondering is the it seems to me that A K is a looseing bet vs two oponents who bolth have low poket pairs. Because between them bolth they have 4 outs to winn even if one of the 6 outs hits for the A K.



P.S. please excuse my spelling.
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:29 PM #2 (permalink)  

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http://poker-tools.FlopTurnRiver.com...Calculator.php
FlopTurnRiver.com -h Ac Ks - 3h3d - 9h9d
single usage: /usr/sbin/.libs/lt-pokenum [-t] [-O] [-mc niter]
[-h|-h8|-o|-o8|-7s|-7s8|-7snsq|-r|-5d|-5d8|-5dnsq|-l|-l27]
- - ... [ -- ] [ / ] ]
streaming usage: /usr/sbin/.libs/lt-pokenum -i < argsfile

This was useing the calculator on here but it dosent make sence to me
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:33 PM #3 (permalink)  

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Ok I figured out what I did wrong but this still dosnt tell me how to figure it out

http://poker-tools.FlopTurnRiver.com...Calculator.php
FlopTurnRiver.com -h ks ac - 3h 3d - 9h 9d
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Ac 511674 37.33 855155 62.39 3925 0.29 0.374
3d 3h 235865 17.21 1130964 82.51 3925 0.29 0.173
9d 9h 619290 45.18 747539 54.53 3925 0.29 0.453
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Old 08-01-2006, 10:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 You need a space, 3h 3d, not 3h3d

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Old 08-01-2006, 11:07 PM #5 (permalink)  

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Ok I figured out what I did wrong but this still dosnt tell me how to figure it out

http://poker-tools.FlopTurnRiver.com...Calculator.php
FlopTurnRiver.com -h ks ac - 3h 3d - 9h 9d
Holdem Hi: 1370754 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Ks Ac 511674 37.33 855155 62.39 3925 0.29 0.374
3d 3h 235865 17.21 1130964 82.51 3925 0.29 0.173
9d 9h 619290 45.18 747539 54.53 3925 0.29 0.453
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equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 37.4234 % 37.33% 00.10% { AcKs }
Hand 2: 45.2742 % 45.18% 00.10% { 9d9h }
Hand 3: 17.3024 % 17.21% 00.10% { 3d3h }
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Old 08-01-2006, 11:37 PM #7 (permalink)  

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OK I figured out how to use the calculator.... But does eny one know who to figure this out on your oun?
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:19 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 Disregard flushes, and straights (although it will hurt AK a little). Disregard AA9 boards.

P(x) := probability that card x comes
C(x, y) := choose y from x (combinatorics)
| := or
% := and

P(A | K) - P((A | K) & (9 | 3))
C(41, 4) * C(6, 1) - C(37, 3) * C(4, 1) * C(6,1)

That's not even accurate, but it's close. I figure you either throw your hands in the air and run away, or you REALLY want to learn, so you start reading these:
http://www.math.sfu.ca/~alspach/pokerdigest.html
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:53 PM #9 (permalink)  

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Originally Posted by swiggidy
Disregard flushes, and straights (although it will hurt AK a little). Disregard AA9 boards.

P(x) := probability that card x comes
C(x, y) := choose y from x (combinatorics)
| := or
% := and

P(A | K) - P((A | K) & (9 | 3))
C(41, 4) * C(6, 1) - C(37, 3) * C(4, 1) * C(6,1)

That's not even accurate, but it's close. I figure you either throw your hands in the air and run away, or you REALLY want to learn, so you start reading these:
http://www.math.sfu.ca/~alspach/pokerdigest.html
Thanks thats the kind of thing I was looking for. A lil tough but I check out the link you posted
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