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kikiposada
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11-24-2009, 10:07 PM
Post subject: Need some fine tuning!
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Greetings,
I'm new in online poker, have some experience in live playing, but nothing serious. Before I started with online playing I did some reading, so I come to conclusion that NLHE 6 max short stack is something that is good for start if I wanna build bankroll and go up with blinds.
This is a system that I adapted for mentioned game based on stuff that I read and around 100k hands:
EA:JJ+,AK
MD:TT+,AK,AQ
CO:88+,AK,AQ,AJ,ATs,KQs
BTN:44+,AK,AQ,AJ,AT,A9s,A8s,A7s,KQ,KJ,KTs,QJs
SB:unopened-CO cards;1+ limpers-MD cards
BB:EA cards
From EA and MD I always limp, and if I have raise in front or reraise go all in with all mentioned cards. If I have hand on flop I check-call on raise. On turn always all in. If I dont have hand on flop and playing against one player I bluff with 66% of pot. Also with QQ+ always all in.
On other positions I raise 4BB+1BB for every limper.Exception are QQ+,AK on wich I go min raise(2BB). For 1 raise and reraise I go all in:
CO:TT+,Ak,AQ;
BTN: 1 raise:TT+,Ak,AQ,AJ; Reraise: same with KQs
SB: 1 raise:QQ+; Reraise: TT+,AK
BB: same like SB
On flop if I have hand(top pair.overpair,three of a kind...) and have a raise i call, all in on turn. If there is no raise I raise 66%, all in on turn/flop reraise.If no hand and I'm playing against one player I bluff 66%.
Thats about it. I play micro and low stakes, my goal is NL200 6 max, so opinion from someone who plays sss on these blinds would be great,thanks in advance.
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a_e_82
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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everyone needs to fine tune thier game. im still workin on it. gl and see ya around .
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meeloche
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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First off Welcome to FTR.
Don't take this the wrong way but your strategy may be able to beat the micro stakes but there are a lot of holes in it. There's a lot more to poker than just going off a preflop chart. It seems like you've got a decent base though as your likely playing pretty tight which is a good place to start.
I would recommend reading some of the stickies in the beginners circle and shnl. Post some hands and get some feedback and go from there.
{moved from shnl}
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kikiposada
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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One more thing. My main problem are blinds, they are eating me alive.. If someone have suggestion how to integrate blind defense in to my system... Thanks
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by kikiposada
One more thing. My main problem are blinds, they are eating me alive.. If someone have suggestion how to integrate blind defense in to my system... Thanks
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That's just the nature of the game. Blinds are our biggest losing position in poker. 6max or full ring. There are many people here that would lose less from the blinds by just folding them all the time regardless of their hand. One mistake many make is playing too many hands from the blinds trying to protect them. Playing bad hands from the worst positions on the table is going to cost you more.
Two things I can tell you is that blinds are worth stealing and not defending until you understand where and why, and the button is to be defended. Look for guys stealing your blinds, look for guys stealing your button and look for guys to play against in bad positions. Lose the preflop chart and learn how to play poker vs player types.
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kikiposada
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5
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Thank's for reply.
I tried to lose preflop, but then I had a problem people reraising me, so i have to fold on many cards. This was specialy on EA and MD.
Maybe my preflop play is'nt good? More, less aggresive?
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mz102489
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: utg
Posts: 76
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post some example hands
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mz102489
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: utg
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also, dont literally lose your pf range, just dont depend solely on it.
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kikiposada
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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I tryed to compensate blinds on 6 max, but it's too much for me, I pay them too often and even when I get hands I can't get enough even to cover the blinds damage..
I switch to full ring a nd tbh I'm much more relaxed now. Game is more predictable, I dont pay blinds as often and it's even easy to steal and defend blinds as well.
I'm sure that I still have some leaks, because there are lot of differences for sure. So like for 6 max, any advice is more than welcome
I play first two positions like UTG;( from 6max written above)
3.,4. and 5. like MD;
CO,BTN,BB,SB are same.
I play pretty much same preflop, regular 4xBB raise with hands from chart and 2xBB with QQ+. I added blind steal from BTN where I raise with more hands if everyone folds before. From Sb I play same chart if every folds before. If I'm on SB or BB everybody folds and BTN raise to 3BB I reraise with BTN chart. If they reraise I fold, if they call and check and I miss pot I go with cbet. This works pretty good so far. Still blinds are problem, but not as much as on 6 max.
I have problem with preflop AI with AK,AQ because I'm loosing too much from small pairs. I will try to play reraise, so I could first see the flop. It's better to lose 5BB then 20-25..
Thanks, hope u'll help me become winning player
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LawDude
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Full House
Join Date: Feb 2009
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kiki, I'm not going to tell you to get rid of your pre-flop chart, but I will tell you that it is possible to win, or lose, in poker with a great variety of different pre-flop strategies.
What you need to do is stop thinking about a "system" and start thinking about what the players you are playing against are doing and what it tells you about what hands they might hold, and then determine how you do against those hands.
For instance, I can think of some situations where you should fold AJ from the BB to a pre-flop raise, and some situations where you should 3-bet it. No chart can capture these nuances. Charts are fine in getting you to be disciplined and not spew chips playing too many hands, but they are just the starting point.
So post some hands that gave you trouble. Since you are concerned about blind play, maybe you should start by posting some hands where you were faced with difficult decisions in the blinds and see what people think about them.
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