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Renton
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09-12-2007, 10:28 PM
Post subject: my position stats are the gay
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Other relevant stats:
attempt to steal blinds is 30.1%
flop af 4.82
turn af 2.27
riveraf 2.20
totalaf 3.53
My observations:
- My UTG ---> MP1 game is totally [censored] pimp.
- Amount lost from blinds seems high, although i have nothing to base this upon.
- won $ when saw flop in button, 1, and 2 seems low (another solid players position stats for 2/4 full ring was over 12% higher wsf than me)
- ergo, i'm thinking my button, cutoff, and hijack winrates seem unoptimal
thoughts on how to improve any of this?
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BankItDrew
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Maybe your 'tricky' counter on your brain turns on much more frequently when you're seated on the button ie. making moves, hero calls, etc.
If not to recommend playing the same from the button as the CO, I am of no help. Positional stats seem fine overall to me.
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daven
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looks good to me. 15-12 is probably what i should be aiming at... I find I make more out of cut-off than the button as well, I put it mostly down to people letting me steal more from cut-off...
Is it possible you're making less on the button because you're trying to steal the pot on the flop and turn more often than you should be? or because your opening range is far greater you are playing worse hands than normal to the river?
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Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i think sample size is still a pretty big issue.
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daven
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by 2_Thumbs_Up
Someone correct me if i'm wrong but i think sample size is still a pretty big issue.
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100 000 hands is a pretty good start as far as sample-size goes. You think we should all wait until we clock a million hands + before we start analysing?
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Renton
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paging fnord zook danutsinyoeye and (insert any other ftr full ring player)
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IowaSkinsFan
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i dont understand why you would want to be this tight in LP.
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So he can play more tables. ldo
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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2_Thumbs_Up
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by daven
100 000 hands is a pretty good start as far as sample-size goes. You think we should all wait until we clock a million hands + before we start analysing?
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It's still only 15k hands/position. Win rate can vary quite a bit for 15k hands.
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zook
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Looks fine. HJ, CO & Button stats are way too nitty for my taste, but I don't think you should make any changes based on a winrate over 15k hands. Not sure why you're losing so much from the bb when you're playing so nitty there and winning 51+% at showdown. Maybe you actually need to play more hands there 
Overall it's fine. You're a 4+ptbb/100 winner over 124k hands 
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my stats look just like yours for 6max exept my vpip is obviously higher.
plz explain why i run bad? 
btw, nice brag post (i know its not but w/e)
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Fnord
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09-15-2007, 09:58 PM
Post subject: Re: my position stats are the gay
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
- Amount lost from blinds seems high, although i have nothing to base this upon.
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It should be higher in full ring vs short handed because you're defending (or rather folding) against a stronger range of hands. Because folding is so often correct, this is why FR is better for people with no blind defense game.
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Originally Posted by Renton
- ergo, i'm thinking my button, cutoff, and hijack winrates seem unoptimal
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Against tight high-volume multi-tablers you can 3x raise pretty much anything from the Button or SB and show a profit. Just be careful how often you continue if a tight player calls as there is a higher chance you ran into a real hand. Easiest money in online poker.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by zook
HJ, CO & Button stats are way too nitty for my taste
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You also need to consider that he will have to fold a lot of hands to EP/MP raises, so his number will be tigher unless he's making a bunch of 3-bet plays.
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wufwugy
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Where'd you [censored] post this on 2p2?
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